Q. They were the spokesmen for the crowd, were they? A. One of them was the spokesmen. We asked for the spokesman when we went there. Q. Who was that man? A. I don't remember now who he was. Q. An engineer, conductor, or brakeman? A. I think he was a brakeman. Q. What is Mr. Garrett's first name? A. His name is David Garrett. By Mr. Means: Q. At Twenty-eighth street, did the mob of men stop the train going east? A. They stopped everything. Q. Who did that? A. I don't know whether it was by employés or others. Q. They prevented the engines from connecting with your stock trains? A. Yes; sometimes they told the engineers to go on back. Q. They sent the engines back? A. Yes; they were sent right back on going out the track, and sent in again on coming out the track. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Describe the crowd during Friday night? A. I was not there during that night. Q. Were you there during Saturday morning? A. Yes. Q. Describe things then? A. Early in the morning there was not such a very large crowd, but towards evening, just before the soldiers came up---- Q. How large was it in the morning early? A. I don't suppose there were over two hundred people. Q. What time was that? A. About seven o'clock--that is outside of the soldiers. The Fourteenth and Eighteenth regiments were there then, I believe. In the evening along about five o'clock, at the time the firing began, in the neighborhood of the railroad, and in the streets there were from five to seven thousand people. Q. Who composed that crowd then--what class of men? A. They appeared to be all classes. Q. Railroad employés? A. Railroad and mill men, and I guess a few of every kind. Q. When you refer to the crowd of five thousand, do you mean to say that all of that crowd were riotous or engaged in riotous conduct? A. I don't mean to say that. Q. You say that a portion of them were lookers-on? A. Yes. Q. How many were actually engaged in the riot at that time? A. I cannot say. They were scattered around here and there and everywhere. Q. Was there any division or separation between the rioters and the crowd that was looking on? A. I guess they were scattered through the crowd everywhere around the railroad. Q. Down on the railroad were any persons looking on--were they along the railroad track, or were they back on the hill? A. They were standing on the hill and on the railroad track, too. Some of them might be railroad men of other roads, and I never know it. Q. Were there any women and children mixed up with the crowd? A. There were some on the street and hill-side. Q. That crowd had been accumulating all day I suppose? A. Yes. Q. How was it in regard to any boisterous or noisy demonstrations? A. I would say that some of them were pretty boisterous. Some of them would be about half tight, and were raising a little excitement here and among themselves. Q. When did the crowd begin to get demonstrative or boisterous, at what time in the day?