Q. Who told you that? A. Robert Hardy. Q. Do you know whether he was among the strikers? A. I don't know. Q. How large a crowd was assembled there? A. I suppose about fifty persons. I thought that somebody was hurt by the Johnstown accommodation. It was just such a crowd as gathers when an accident takes place. Q. Were they boisterous and noisy? A. No; I didn't go into the crowd. Q. Did you have any conversation with any of the men? A. Nothing further than ascertaining what was going on. I went down to the lower round-house after my engine. Q. Did you go out that night? A. I did. Q. Were you interfered with? A. Not in the least--further than having to run carefully through the crowd. Q. Were you present during the riotous conduct, on any of those days from Thursday morning? A. I made my usual trips on Thursday and on Friday without any trouble, any more than this crowd getting on and off the engine between Torrens and Pittsburgh. By Senator Reyburn: Q. What kind of men were those? A. The majority of them were not railroad men. They didn't appear to be accustomed to riding trains. Q. Did they talk? A. Only among themselves. Q. What seemed to be their object? A. They had no object, that I could see. Q. Merely curiosity? A. More curiosity than anything else. Q. Have you any knowledge of new facts not related by the other engineers or conductors here who have testified? A. Nothing. They have filled up all I can say. Q. Can you give us any new light, as to the organization of the men or their plans of action, or the names of the prominent strikers? A. I don't know the names of many of them. Q. What do you know about the causes of the riot? A. Nothing, only the double-headers. By Senator Yutzy: Q. Were you permitted to run the passenger trains without interference? A. Until Saturday night. Q. How about the freight trains. Were they permitted to run? A. Not to my knowledge. Q. They were stopped? A. Except when I passed through with the train. I was not there. I didn't see the freight trains from that Thursday until the Sunday after running. I was aware of the fact that there was a suspension of business. By Mr. Larrabee: Q. What was the difficulty with the passenger trains on Saturday night? A. Coming in from the five-twenty trip, they told us that we couldn't go out again. Some men got on the engine and told me so. Q. Do you know where those men were from? A. I don't know. It was night, and I didn't pay much attention to their appearance. Q. Were they miners, or mill men, or tramps, or railroad men? A. They were not railroad men; they didn't talk like it, or look like it. By Senator Yutzy: Q. Did you hear any threats? A. They only told me I was not to go out again. Q, They only complained about the orders for running double-headers? A. Yes. By Mr. Larrabee: Q. These men gave no reasons for refusing to allow you to go out again on Saturday night?