A. My impression is that the rates in 1877 were lower than in 1876. I want to say here, that our shifting engines handling freight on the street had been interfered with two or three times during Saturday morning by the crowd going down Twenty-eighth street, and sent back. I walked out the street, from Eleventh street to Forty-third--between eleven and twelve o'clock. I saw that there was a very considerable excitement among the people, and a good deal of feeling. From there I went up on to Twenty-eighth street, where the strikers were in possession of the track. I saw but very few people there that I knew. Some faces were familiar to me. I came back to the office, and got a report about the action of the men at the shop, and went out there at half-past two o'clock, and on my return I walked up to the Pennsylvania railroad shops, and found the troops were moving out. I went in through the yard, and followed in the rear of the column. After the troops reached the vicinity of Twenty-eighth street, I got up on a car right in the rear of them, and I watched their movements--the formation of the command. The crossings were cleared. I saw a few stones thrown among the crowd, and I saw a man with a cap on--saw him draw a pistol, and fire into the troops. Q. Do you know who it was? A. No. Q. Do you know whether he was a railroad man or not? A. I cannot answer that. When the company struck the crowd on the crossing there was a recoil like jumping up against a rock. There did not appear to be any give to it. Then there was a struggle, and some of the men reached for the muskets, and two or three of the soldiers pulled back and brought their muskets to a charge, and three or four shots were fired. Q. By the troops? A. Yes; and then there appeared to be a volley from the entire command--a rattling fire--starting at the front rank and breaking back to the rear. By Senator Reyburn: Q. What do you mean by the entire command? A. The head commenced firing, and then it run back on the wings. It was an irregular roll of musketry. I got off the car, and fell back after the firing ceased. My position was somewhat exposed. Q. Did you hear any command to fire? A. I do not think there was any command given. Q. You were in a position to hear it? A. Yes. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. How many shots were fired by the crowd before the militia began to fire? A. I only saw one. I saw some stones thrown. Q. Was a volley of stones thrown in among the militia, or was it scattering? A. Scattering. Q. From what point were the stones thrown? A. They appeared to come from the hill side--in the vicinity of the watch-box, near the crossing. Q. What was the effect of the firing of the stones among the militia--was there any damage done to life or limb? A. I noticed a sergeant of one of the Philadelphia companies with a bad cut on the face. He came back with his face shattered. The thing came very quick. By Senator Yutzy: