A. I suppose ten or fifteen of those men gathered around us, and wanted us to let him go. Q. Did you arrest all of those who undertook to take McCall's part? A. They did not use any violence at all. McCall appealed to them, and asked them not to allow him to be arrested, that they were there for the purpose of preventing the trains from running, and that they were not surely going to allow him to go to the watch-house, but there was not a man of them that attempted to interfere with the officers. The only interference was some stones thrown from the hill-side around. I saw some of them thrown, and most of them by boys. Q. I understand, after you returned from the lock-up, you found the crowd still assembled at Twenty-eighth street? A. Yes. Q. How large was it then? A. It was increased then, I estimate, to about the number of two hundred people, women, and children, and boys, and men. Q. What were they doing at that time? A. They were just standing around there chatting and talking among themselves. The excitement was still increasing. Q. No effort was made to start the trains from that time until three o'clock? A. When those men came from the office--the second force--Mr. Watt went up to Torren's station. I believe there was no person there that appeared to make any effort to do anything. Mr. Fox, the chief of the Pennsylvania railroad police was there, and I was under his instructions to do anything he wanted done. From that time, until I left, no effort was made on their part to run out trains east. There was an attempt made after I left to run trains out, but of course I did not see that. Q. Did you command the crowd to disperse? A. We undertook to keep the crowd off the tracks, but our force was not sufficient. As soon as we would get one track cleared, they would come in on the other. It would have required at two or three o'clock--it would have required a hundred men to clear the tracks, and do it effectually, and I did not have the necessary force to do it with. They appeared to loiter around there talking, and the crowd kept on increasing. Q. Did you get any further instructions after you returned to the city and reported to the chief of police? A. I got no further instructions, I remember, from the chief; he instructed me to turn the force over to officer Fowler, and report at the city hall. Q. Do you know, of your own knowledge, what were the movements of the police force there during the balance of the day? A. During the balance of the day the force was increased to, I think, at Twenty-eighth street, thirty men--twenty-five or thirty men--during the evening. They remained on duty all night. Q. Was there any effort made to run out trains during the afternoon of Thursday? A. I believe there was. Q. Were you not on an engine, and were you not driven off? A. I was not; the officers can be got here that went on that engine. Q. Will you tell us who they were? A. Officer Saul Coulston and officer Robert Fowler.