Q. And he discharged them? A. Yes; he discharged a good many of them. By Mr. Engelbert: Q. Do you know whether those people were citizens of Pittsburgh, or people that had just run in? A. Some were citizens of Pittsburgh and some were strangers. By Mr. Means: Q. Did the mayor or anybody else say to you, at any time, that it was necessary for the railroad officials to get out of town--that their lives were in jeopardy. A. I never heard any such expression coming from the mayor. Q. That it was necessary for the railroad officials to get out of town--that their lives were in jeopardy? Was that said to you by the mayor or by anybody else? A. I am satisfied that I didn't hear any expression like that coming from the mayor, but I heard talk like that on the street. Q. From whom? A. Most any of the crowd that would be congregated together would be talking about this thing. Q. Citizens of Pittsburgh? A. Yes. Q. Could you name any of them? A. Not now. It was the general talk. General Pearson, I guess, was named in such talk more often than the railroad officers. Q. But you heard that talk about the railroad officials? A. Yes; that it would not be safe for them to show up. By Mr. Engelbert: Q. One question about this plundering and thieving: Were those parties discharged the same day that they were arrested--on Sunday? A. The same day--Sunday. Q. Then the arrests amounted virtually to nothing? A. Yes; except in saving the property of the company, or whoever it belonged to. By Senator Yutzy: Q. Was the mayor present when you offered protection to the firemen, at the fire engine, when they proposed to throw water on those burning cars? A. Yes; the mayor was present. One of the firemen asked him, if he would protect them, and he said yes, and the fireman said, that is what we want. Then they made the attachment, but did not throw any water afterward on the fire. Q. Did they make any proposal to the mayor, to take an active part himself--to hold the nozzle? A. No; I do not think they did. By Senator Reyburn: Q. Why did they not throw the water? A. Because, I suppose, they were intimidated. Q. But when you gave them the protection they asked, did they not make an effort to throw the water? A. No. Q. Did the mob make a rush? A. No; no more than following the engine. Q. What reason did they give for not throwing the water? A. I do not know. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Who had charge of the engine at that point? A. I do not know; I do not know what engine it was. By Mr. Engelbert: Q. Did the firemen throw water on private property when it was burning? A. All the time. Q. But not on the railroad property? A. No. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. Do you know who the man was who asked protection from the mayor? A. I do not know. Q. Did the mob interfere with private property at any time? A. Not during that day. They did attempt to during that night and also during Sunday night.