Everybody you would see, had a bundle on their shoulders or their heads. By Senator Yutzy: Q. What time of night was this? A. Between three and four o'clock in the morning. I came down to Twenty-third street, but we could not go into service at all. They were shooting at that time out of the machine shop and the round-house. Q. Who were shooting? A. The soldiers, and the others were shooting out of the board pile. Q. Firing at the round-house? A. Yes; they took this gun and planted it in the street to shoot into the round-house, and these men in the round-house, when they would go to sight this gun, would shoot them. They had this gun loaded with links and pins belonging to the railroad company. After the fire started, I think it could have been stopped before it set the round-house on fire. I think at that time it could have been stopped, because in the morning, about six or seven o'clock, they commenced running down the wall--a crowd of them--and then pushed the cars up along the Allegheny Valley track, and when they would come to a car afire--one man I noticed particularly jump up on a car, and stop it alongside of another car afire. Then when it would catch fire they would open the brakes, and let it go down to the round-house. Then they threw something out of the round-house, and stopped the cars there, and then they got to throwing water out of the round-house on the cars. I was down on the corner of Twenty-third street when two rough looking customers came down, and asked me where the place to stop the water off was. They said they are throwing water out of the round-house. I told them to go to the head of Twenty-sixth street on Liberty, and that they would see a big iron plate in the middle of the street, and that they should lift that up, and put their hands down and stop it off. They said they will pick us off, and they wanted to know if there was no place in Penn street to stop the water off. I said no. By Senator Yutzy: Q. You knew they could not stop it off? A. Yes; I knew they were rioters, and if they went where I told them they would shoot them, perhaps. Q. You did not give the information for the purpose of getting the water stopped off. A. No; I knew that they could not stop it off. By Senator Reyburn: Q. Were these two men strangers? A. Yes. Q. You are very well acquainted about Pittsburgh? A. Yes. Q. Did this crowd--all of them--seem to be citizens? A. Some of them did, and some did not. Q. What were the citizens doing?