A. Standing there--a great many of them--but they were afraid to speak or to do anything for fear of getting hurt--those that felt like stopping it. A good many were arrested. I saw the "black maria" very busy taking men down to the station-house, and I asked the policemen how many were arrested, and they said one hundred and thirty or one hundred and forty, for stealing, and in the morning I asked a man what they did with them, and he said that the mayor had fined them three dollars and costs, and let them go. I said they were all thieves, and he said that nobody was there to identify the property. I said it was not necessary to identify stolen property. Q. Did he get the three dollars out of them? A. That is what the policeman said--three dollars and costs. Q. He did not let them go until he got that? A. That is what he told me. By Senator Yutzy: Q. What time was the round-house set on fire? A. About seven o'clock in the morning. Q. How was it fired? A. From cars on the Allegheny Valley railroad. Q. Is that on Liberty street? A. Yes; the track is on top of the wall until you come to a little piece on this side of Twenty-sixth street, and then it comes down and gets level with the payment--between Twenty-fifth and Twenty-sixth streets it begins to get on a level with the payment. These cars were stopped between Twenty-sixth and Twenty-seventh streets. One fireman told me--a fireman of Engine Company 8, in Philadelphia--that he got the water ready to throw, or was handling the line, when he said there was a car loaded with liquor in it burning, and it ran down into the cellar of the round-house, or the shop on the other side, and that that was what drove them out so that they could not do anything. When that liquor, burning, ran down into the cellar, it set the buildings on fire. Q. Did any of your engines play on the fire on the railroad? A. No; they would not let us. And we had as much as we could do after the fire started. As fast as the fire would come along we would move the engines down. Q. How many engines had you? A. Eleven of my own, and the chief engineer of Allegheny came over and fetched me three. Q. They would not allow you to play on the railroad property. A. No. Q. Did you ask protection from the mayor? A. I do not know that I saw him but once. He and Roger O'Mara came up Penn street in a buggy, and turned out Liberty, and then O'Mara came back some way without the mayor. Q. Did you ask for protection? A. No; I did not see anybody to ask. Q. Do you know of any protection given to you by the police? A. No protection at all, sir. If I could have got protection when I first went out to the fire, we could have kept the other cars from burning. We could have pulled them away sufficiently far to stop the oil tanks from setting any of the rest afire, and kept them cooled off. Q. Do you think that the police force of the city could have protected you so that you could have played on the fire?