Q. It was not done at your instance? A. If it had been called it would have been through me. I had nothing to do with this poster on the telegraph pole; but after being on the pole for a half day, I concluded, rather than dupe the men, to let them meet, but nothing was done. By Mr. Larrabee: Q. Do you know how many members of this organization there were in Pittsburgh at the time of the contemplated strike in June? A. I don't know. Q. Do you know how many divisions there were in this city? A. No. Q. Have you any idea? A. In Pittsburgh? Q. Yes? A. Three or four in Pittsburgh--three, I think. Q. How many members belonged to the division you were connected with? A. That is a question I cannot answer--I cannot tell. Q. Can you give an approximate estimate of the number in Pittsburgh, at that time? A. Four or five hundred. Q. Was there not an understanding in the union, that whenever there were differences between the train men and the railroad companies, that the railroad companies were to be brought to terms by the members of the union, by striking on some particular day, without any notice to the companies, so that all traffic would be stopped? A. I don't know of anything of that kind. Q. Was there not some such talk, that that would be the most effectual way of bringing the companies to terms? A. There was a great deal of wild talk among the men. Q. There was no such proposal made in the union? A. No. Q. And no definite plan was adopted by the union to act upon the railroad companies in any way? A. No. By Mr. Engelbert: Q. When any men wanted to become members of the organization, did they have to pay any initiation fees or dues? A. They would have had to in course of time, but, up to that time, it was more a charitable institution than anything else. Anybody that had five cents or a quarter, and wanted to give it, could give it. Q. There was no specific sum at that time? A. No. Q. Nor since? A. The union is not in existence. By Senator Yutzy: Q. What do you mean by a strike--a railroad strike--what is the usual custom--what do you mean by it? A. What I have always understood by a strike, is the men quitting work. Q. You understand that they are all to quit? A. Most undoubtedly. Q. For the purpose of stopping traffic--the running of trains? A. If that would stop it--most undoubtedly. Q. Is it customary, in railroad strikes, for the men who quit work, to stop others from working, by violence or otherwise? A. I have never seen it--by violence. Q. Only by persuasion? A. Only by persuasion. I have heard about a great many men being stopped, but, if our railroad men would get up and testify--I have heard railroad men claim that they wanted to work, but there was not one of them, that was not in the mire just as deep, while the thing was going on. By Senator Reyburn: Q. You mean the trainmen? A. Certainly. By Senator Yutzy: Q. What class of men did you take into your organization?