A. O, yes; that they would kill the firemen, and one thing and another? By Mr. Engelbert: Q. Did you see a proclamation or any official document of the mayor of the city of Pittsburgh ordering the rum shops and drinking saloons to be closed on Saturday or Sunday? A. I do not know of seeing it. If a proclamation was issued on Saturday, I was not in the city on Saturday afternoon. Q. Or any proclamation ordering the crowd to disperse? A. I did not. Q. No proclamation calling for a police force? A. No. By Senator Reyburn: Q. Did you see the shooting on Saturday night? A. No; what occurred in the evening I didn't see. I was up there in the morning, but out of the city in the afternoon. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. If a determined effort had been made on Thursday by the mayor with the police force that he had at hand, could he have dispersed the crowd? A. I do not know of any reason why he should not. Q. On Friday, do you think so? A. Yes. Q. Could he on Saturday, up until the time of the arrival of the militia? A. It could not have been done on Saturday morning, because the mill men had all commenced to gather. By Senator Yutzy: Q. Do you think he could have quelled the trouble without calling on the militia--that the police force could have suppressed the riot? A. That is something I do not pretend to answer. The militia were called out a day or two previous to that. But I think this, that it was unfortunate for this shooting to have occurred in Pittsburgh. My sympathies were with the strikers, but not up to the point of rioting. Q. You say you thought on Saturday morning the crowd could not have been dispersed without the militia? A. No. Q. By the police force? A. No. Q. Could the mayor or the sheriff have raised a posse, either in the city or in the county, including both, sufficient to have dispersed the crowd? A. I think that the mayor of any city of the size of the city of Pittsburgh ought to be able, with his police force, to break up any assemblage of men. By Mr. Engelbert: Q. After the sheriff called upon the Governor for troops, didn't that intensify the feeling in Pittsburgh? A. It did. I do not think that there was any necessity for that, sir. By Mr. Lindsey: Q. State what efforts were made to start trains that day? A. On Friday afternoon no effort was made. The passenger trains came in on Saturday morning. The troops were mixed with the crowd, and no effort was made to start trains, I went to Allegheny City, and learned of the shooting while coming across the river. I happened to be away when the fun commenced. At this point the committee adjourned to meet to-morrow morning, at ten o'clock. MORNING SESSION. ORPHANS' COURT ROOM, PITTSBURGH, _Wednesday, February 13, 1878_. Pursuant to adjournment, the committee assembled at ten o'clock A.M., this day, and continued taking of testimony. The first witness examined was: