It was further suggested that if the meeting was remote from London, the King must either give an opportunity for a rising there by withdrawing troops, or else give the insurgents time to gather head. Other questions discussed were what counties and towns were the fittest for action, what arms were necessary, how the £20,000 or £30,000 which the Duke of Monmouth considered necessary for the rising were to be raised; lastly and chiefly how to 'order it, as to draw Scotland into a consent with us.' Another meeting was held ten days afterwards at Lord Russell's, when the same persons were present. It was then decided to send messengers to Lord Argyle 'to settle an understanding with him, and others to invite to England persons' that were judged most able to understand the state of Scotland, and give an account of it. Aaron Smith[17] was accordingly sent to Sir John Cochram[18], Lord Melvile[19], and Sir ---- Campbell, and received sixty guineas from Algernon Sidney for his expenses. It was agreed that the conspirators should not meet together again till Aaron Smith's return. His absence for a month caused some apprehensions; 'but if his letters had miscarried, it could have done no great hurt, for it carried only a kind of cant in it; it was under the disguise of a plantation in Carolina.' ATTORNEY-GENERAL--You are sure my lord Russell was there? LORD HOWARD--Yes, sir; I wish I could say he was not. ATTORNEY-GENERAL--Did he sit there as a cypher? What did my lord say? LORD HOWARD--Every one knows my lord Russell is a person of great judgment, and not very lavish in discourse. SERJEANT JEFFREYS--But he did consent? LORD HOWARD--We did not put it to the vote, but it went without contradiction, and I took it that all there gave their consent. SOLICITOR-GENERAL--The raising of money you speak of, was that put into in any way? LORD HOWARD--No, but every man was to put themselves upon thinking of such a way, that money might be collected without administering jealousy. ATTORNEY-GENERAL--Were there no persons to undertake for a fund? LORD HOWARD--No, I think not. However it was but opinion, the thing that was said was jocosely, rather than anything else, that my lord of Essex had dealing in money, and therefore he was thought the most proper person to take care of those things; but this was said rather by way of mirth, than otherwise. Howard then withdrew to Essex to see after some private affairs; on returning to town he heard that Smith had returned with Sir John Cochram but did not see them. He then went to Bath and had nothing more to do with the conspiracy. LORD CHIEF-JUSTICE--My lord Russell, now if your lordship pleases, is the time for you to ask him any questions.