Shaftesbury told him of the meeting; he was not there more than a quarter of an hour; he heard something of a declaration to be made, either there, or on a report of Ferguson's. JEFFREYS--To what purpose was the declaration? LORD CHIEF-JUSTICE--We must do the prisoner that right; he says he cannot tell whether he had it from him or Mr. Ferguson. There was some discourse begun by Armstrong as to the posture of the guards at the Savoy and at the Mews. Monmouth, Grey, and Armstrong, in Russell's presence, undertook to see the guards, with what care and vigilance they did guard themselves at the Savoy and Mews, whether they might be surprised or not. The rising was to be on the 19th of November. It was arranged by Shaftesbury that he himself was to go to Bristol, in what capacity it was not stated. JEFFREYS--If my lord Russell pleases to ask him any questions he may. LORD RUSSELL--I have very few questions to ask him for I know little of the matter; for it was the greatest accident in the world I was there, and when I saw that company was there I would have been gone again. I came there accidentally to speak with Mr. Sheppard; I had just come to town, but there was no discourse of surprising the guards, nor no undertaking of raising an army. LORD CHIEF-JUSTICE--We will hear you to anything by and by, but that which we desire to know of your lordship is, as the witnesses come, to know if you would have any particular questions asked of them. On being pressed by Russell, Rumsey repeated that Russell 'did discourse of the rising' at Taunton and consented to it. _Sheppard_ was called, and deposed that in October Ferguson came to him in Monmouth's name, and desired the conveniency of my house, for him and some other persons of quality to meet there. As soon as I had granted it, in the evening the duke of Monmouth, my lord Grey, my lord Russell, sir Thomas Armstrong, col. Rumsey and Mr. Ferguson came. Sir T. Armstrong desired me that none of my servants might come up, but they might be private; so what they wanted I went down for, a bottle of wine or so. He confirmed Rumsey's evidence as to the discourse about surprising the guards; Monmouth, Grey, and Armstrong went out to view them at the Mews; the next time they met Armstrong reported the guards were very remiss in their places, and not like soldiers, and the thing was feasible, if they had strength to do it. There were two meetings: he had notice of them; the company came in the evening; he saw no coaches; Lord Russell came both times. JEFFREYS--Do you remember that col. Rumsey at the first time had any discourse about any private business relating to my lord Russell? SHEPPARD--No, I do not remember it. ATTORNEY-GENERAL--Besides the seizing of the guards did they discourse about rising?