I travelled back with Harburn the same evening, and he said to me: "Once a German, always a German. Didn't that chap Holsteig astonish you this morning? In spite of living here so long and marrying a British wife, his sympathies are dead German, you see." "Well," I replied; "put yourself in his place." "I can't; I could never have lived in Germany. I wonder," he added reflectively, "I wonder if the chap's all right, Cumbermere?" "Of course he's all right." Which was the wrong thing to say to Harburn if one wanted to re-establish his confidence in the Holsteigs, as I certainly did, for I liked them and was sure of their good faith. If I had said: "Of course he's a spy"--I should have rallied all Harburn's confidence in Holsteig, for he was naturally contradictious. I only mention this little passage to show how early Harburn's thoughts began to turn to the subject which afterwards completely absorbed and inspired him till he died for his country. I am not sure what paper first took up the question of interning all the Huns; but I fancy the point was raised originally rather from the instinct, deeply implanted in so many journals, for what would please the public, than out of any deep animus. At all events I remember meeting a sub-editor, who told me he had been opening letters of approval all the morning. "Never," said he, "have we had a stunt catch on so quickly. 'Why should that bally German round the corner get my custom?' and so forth. Britain for the British!" "Rather bad luck," I said, "on people who've paid us the compliment of finding this the best country to live in!" "Bad luck, no doubt," he replied, "_mais la guerre c'est la guerre_. You know Harburn, don't you? Did you see the article he wrote? By Jove, he pitched it strong." When next I met Harburn himself, he began talking on this subject at once. "Mark my words, Cumbermere, I'll have every German out of this country." His grey eyes seemed to glint with the snap and spark as of steel and flint and tinder; and I felt I was in the presence of a man who had brooded so over the German atrocities in Belgium that he was possessed by a sort of abstract hate. "Of course," I said, "there have been many spies, but----" "Spies and ruffians," he cried, "the whole lot of them." "How many Germans do you know personally?" I asked him. "Thank God! Not a dozen." "And are they spies and ruffians?" He looked at me and laughed, but that laugh was uncommonly like a snarl. "You go in for 'fairness,'" he said; "and all that slop; take 'em by the throat--it's the only way."