Q. You were knocked down before you could pull it again? A. Yes, sir; I was. Q. You would have pulled it again? A. Perhaps I would. I don't know. Q. Well, now in your grip have you any literature--any papers? A. I have a book in there, yes, a memorandum book. Q. Did you have any newspapers which you carried about--did you cut out clippings out of the newspapers? A. Oh no, no. I didn't do it. Q. Did you have any record that Col. Roosevelt that you cut out of his acts when he was commissioner of police? A. Oh no, no. You think I'd carry that here, if I wanted to carry that with me ever since 1893 when he was commissioner--you are crazy or I must have a whole book. Q. Well, did you keep any? A. No, sir; nothing at all. I didn't take that much interest. Q. How do you mean, you didn't take that much interest? A. I didn't feel that way about him then when he was police commissioner. Q. When did you first commence to feel that way? A. I felt it in Chicago. Q. That was the first time? A. The first time, yes, sir. Q. When was that? A. In fact, the first time I felt against him was when I had that dream against him the time McKinley died and then I thought I really could not believe in dreams, I could not go to work and shoot a man down because all dreams don't come true. Q. When was that? A. That was the same night or the evening that Mr. McKinley died. Q. How long did you feel that way about it? A. I felt about it. Well, have at least two weeks. Q. Did you see Col. Roosevelt at that time? A. No, sir. Q. Did you go to Washington? A. No, sir. Q. Did you follow him about at all? A. No, sir. Q. Had you ever seen him personally prior to the time---- A. No, sir. Q. Had you ever seen him when he was in New York? A. No, sir. Q. When was the first time you ever saw Col. Roosevelt? A. At Chicago. In Chattanooga. Q. At Chattanooga. The first time you ever saw him? A. Yes, sir. Q. Personally the first time you were ever near him? A. Yes, sir. Q. You mean to say all the time you were living in New York and the times he has been going back and forth from New York you have never seen him at all? A. No, sir. Q. Did you ever go out to Oyster Bay? A. No, sir. Q. Did you ever go over to the Outlook office? A. I don't know where that is. Q. Well, that is a publication--Mr. Abbott's weekly publication in New York. A. I don't know where it is. I could not even find it. I know quite some streets in town, in the neighborhood. I have never been interested in that. I didn't know that Roosevelt had anything to do with the Outlook at all. Q. Well, you knew where his office was in New York? A. Whose office? Q. Col. Roosevelt. A. At the time he was police commissioner? Q. No, since he was president--he has been going back and forth in New York---- A. Since he has been on his third term here. Q. I say he has been back and forth in New York? A. How could I know his office?