Q. While he was in New York after the meeting of the Progressive party in Chicago you knew that, didn't you? A. I don't think so. I thought he was to Oyster Bay. I don't think that I ever read of it that he was in New York city. Q. He went to his office to the Outlook office? A. I have never been looking for him then, sir. Q. You weren't looking for him then? A. No, sir; I wouldn't know where to find his office. Q. When you read of the formation of the party in Chicago what papers did you read that in? A. The same papers. Q. New York Herald and the World? A. Yes, sir. Q. What you read about it then, did that rouse you up to anger at all? A. Well, not exactly anger but I was getting more and more convinced that this man's ambitions is nothing else but a blow to McKinley's death and he wants to get a third term and he shouldn't have it, and that is all. Q. When did you make up your mind to that--in August? A. I made up my mind pretty much in August and then I was corroborated during the vision I had on the 14th day of September. Q. When you say you made your mind up pretty much in August after the meeting of the party, what do you mean by that, that you thought of killing him then? A. Yes, sir, I thought of killing him then. Q. In August. Had you made any plans then to kill him? A. No, I had made none until the 14th. Q. And you thought then of doing this same thing? A. I thought about it, yes, sir; although I was making up my mind as to how or whether I would do it and I thought about it. Q. What time in August was that that you thought about it--just after you read in the papers? A. Yes, sir. Q. After the formation of the party? A. After the formation of the party--wasn't that the 7th of August? [Illustration: Schrank in County Jail.] Q. What particular thing in the accounts of the papers impressed you at that time that gave you or caused you to make up your mind? A. Nothing particular but simply the fact that he built the new party; that he was going to take a third term presidentship. Q. Did you have any grip with you when you went to Chicago? A. No, sir. Q. You had no baggage when you went to that hotel? A. I never had any baggage since I left it in Charleston. Q. Bought no underwear? A. Yes, I bought underwear, certainly, and I threw the old underwear away. Mr. Zabel: I think that is all. CHAPTER XV. REPORT OF THE ALIENISTS. The report of the sanity commission follows: To the Honorable A. C. Backus, Judge of the Municipal Court of Milwaukee County: Pursuant to your appointment of the undersigned on the 12th day of November, 1912, as a Commission to examine John Schrank with reference to his present mental condition, we respectfully submit our report. This report consists of: First: The examination of John Schrank with reference to his personal and family history, his present physical state, and his present mental state.