Manvers laid the finger-tips of two long brown hands lightly against each other. "Very sorry--but it leaves me quite cold. Heresy in the Church of England comes to nothing. Our heretics are never violent enough. They forget the excellent text about the Kingdom of Heaven! Now the heretics in the Church of Rome are violent. That is what makes them so far more interesting." "This man seems to be drastic enough!" "Oh, no!" said the other, gently but firmly incredulous. "Believe me--he will resign, or apologize--they always do." "Believe _me_!--you don't--excuse me!--know anything about it. In the first place, Mr. Meynell has got his parishioners--all except a handful--behind him--" "So had Voysey," interjected Manvers, softly. Mrs. Flaxman took no notice. "--And he has hundreds of other supporters--thousands perhaps--and some of them parsons--in this diocese, and outside it. And they are all convinced that they must fight--fight to the death--and _not_ give in. That, you see, is what makes the difference! My brother-in-law"--the voice speaking changed and softened--"died twenty years ago. I remember how sad it was. He seemed to be walking alone in a world that hardly troubled to consider him--so far as the Church was concerned, I mean. There seemed to be nothing else to do but to give up his living. But the strain of doing it killed him." "The strain of giving up your living may be severe--but, I assure you, your man will find the strain of keeping it a good deal worse." "It all depends upon his backing. How do you know there isn't a world behind him?" Mrs. Flaxman persisted, as the man beside her slowly shook his head. "Well, now, listen! Hugh and I went to church here last Sunday. I never was so bewildered. First, it was crowded from end to end, and there were scores of people from other villages and towns--a kind of demonstration. Then, as to the service--neither of us could find our way about. Instead of saying the Lord's Prayer four times, we said it once; we left out half the psalms for the day, the Rector explaining from the chancel steps that they were not fit to be read in a Christian church; we altered this prayer and that prayer; we listened to an extempore prayer for the widows and orphans of some poor fellows who have been killed in a mine ten miles from here, which made me cry like baby; and, most amazing of all, when it came to the Creeds--" Manvers suddenly threw back his head, his face for the first time sharpening into attention. "Ah! Well--what about the Creeds?" Mrs. Flaxman bent forward, triumphing in the capture of her companion. "We had both the Creeds. The Rector read them--turning to the congregation--and with just a word of preface--'Here follows the Creed, commonly called the Apostles' Creed,'--or 'Here follows the Nicene Creed.' And we all stood and listened--and nobody said a word. It was the strangest moment! You know--I'm not a serious person--but I just held my breath."