_Q._ What kind of a gun was it? _A._ You got it there. That's the one I shot her with (pointing to a gun on Captain Baty's desk just opposite Mr. Ryan), but I had another one, too. (This gun, marked #5308 on gun itself and marked "Exhibit A--Ryan," was thereupon handed to the prisoner.) _Q._ This gun marked "Exhibit A," here, is that the gun you shot her with? _A._ Yes. _Q._ Where did you get that gun? _A._ Vancouver. _Q._ For what purpose did you get it? What did you intend to do with it? _A._ I intended to shoot her. I intended to hold on to it, but in my excitement I dropped it in the weeds there, I guess. _Q._ Where did you get the gun at Vancouver? Do you know the name of the store? _A._ No, it was a hardware store. _Q._ How long before you did the shooting did you get this gun? _A._ About three hours, something like that. _Q._ Do I understand that you went to Vancouver and got this gun and then came over to Portland, and did the shooting? _A._ Yes. _Q._ Where did you get this other gun? (Gun numbered 2506 was thereupon marked "Exhibit B" by Mr. Ryan, and handed to Mr. Tronson.) _A._ This second-hand gun? _Q._ At a second-hand store? _A._ Yes. _Q._ Did you buy that at the same time you bought the other gun? _A._ Yes. _Q._ Where did you buy this gun? _A._ Well, I didn't want to buy them both at the same place. I thought that they might get suspicious. I didn't want to get two five-dollar guns. I bought that for three. _Q._ What did you have in mind when you bought this? _A._ Well, if one didn't work, the other would. _Q._ Do I understand you to say that you bought this to kill her with? _A._ Yes. _Q._ If the new gun didn't work, that would? _A._ Yes. _Q._ When you came over from Vancouver, did you have the guns loaded? _A._ No. _Q._ When did you first load the guns and prepare to do the shooting? _A._ Down there along the river some place. _Q._ Out in South Portland? _A._ Yes. _Q._ Did you load both of them? _A._ Yes. _Q._ You knew where Miss Ulrich lived, did you? _A._ Yes. _Q._ Had you ever visited at the house? _A._ No. _Q._ Had you ever kept company with her? _A._ Yes, I walked around the streets with her once in awhile. _Q._ You never went to her home? _A._ No. _Q._ Did you know her folks? _A._ No. _Q._ Where did you stay out there until she came along? _A._ I didn't get out there any too soon. I didn't stand round two minutes. _Q._ What time did you leave town here to go out to the scene of the shooting? _A._ I came right from Vancouver and went through. _Q._ What time did you get over to Portland from Vancouver? _A._ About five o'clock. _Q._ After you got over to Portland what car did you take then? _A._ I walked out. _Q._ Which way did you go out? _A._ First Street. _Q._ How far out First Street did you go? _A._ Until I struck some of those other streets down there, Front Street I guess, Water or Corbett. _Q._ How long did you wait out there before you saw Miss Ulrich?