The Deipnosophists; or, Banquet of the Learned of Athenæus, Vol. 3 (of 3)Athenaeus, of Naucratis
Philosophy
The Deipnosophists; or, Banquet of the Learned of Athenæus, Vol. 3 (of 3)
Athenaeus, of Naucratis
Civilization, Greco-Roman; Dinners and dining -- Greece; Greece -- Social life and customs; Homosexuality -- Greece
But no one ever calls the life of Aristides a life of pleasure (ἡδὺς),
but that is an epithet they apply to Smindyrides the Sybarite, and to
Sardanapalus, though as far as glory went, as Theophrastus says in his
book on Pleasure, it was a far more splendid one; but Aristides never
devoted himself to luxury as those other men did. Nor would any one
call the life of Agesilaus the king of the Lacedæmonians ἡδὺς; but this
name they would apply rather to the life of Ananis, a man who, as far
as real glory is concerned, is totally unknown. Nor would one call the
life of the heroes who fought against Troy ἡδὺς; but they would speak
in that way much more of the men of the present time; and naturally
enough. For the lives of those men were destitute of any luxurious
preparation, and, as I might almost say, had no seasoning to them,
inasmuch as at that time there was no commercial intercourse between
nations, nor were the arts of refinement carried to any degree of
accuracy; but the life of men of the present day is planned with entire
reference to laziness, and enjoyment, and to all sorts of pastimes.
4. But Plato, in his Philebus, says—"Pleasure is the most insolent of
all things; and, as it is reported, in amatory enjoyments, which are
said to be the most powerful of all, even perjury has been pardoned by
the Gods, as if pleasure was like a child, incapable of distinguishing
between right and wrong." And in the eighth book of his Polity, the
same Plato has previously dilated upon the doctrine so much pressed
by the Epicureans, that, of the desires, some are natural but not
necessary, and others neither natural nor necessary, writing thus—"Is
not the desire to eat enough for health and strength of body, and
for bread and meat to that extent, a necessary desire?—I think it
is.—At all events, the desire for food for these two purposes is
necessary, inasmuch as it is salutary, and inasmuch as it is able to
remove hunger?—No doubt.—And the desire for meat, too, is a necessary
desire, if it at all contributes to a good habit of body?—Most
undoubtedly.—What, then, are we to say? Is no desire which goes beyond
the appetite for this kind of food, and for other food similar to it,
and which, if it is checked in young people, can be entirely stifled,
and which is injurious also to the body, and injurious also to the
mind, both as far as its intellectual powers are concerned, and also
as to its temperance, entitled to be called a necessary one?—Most
certainly not."
[Sidenote: LOVE OF PLEASURE.]
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