The Deipnosophists; or, Banquet of the Learned of Athenæus, Vol. 3 (of 3) — John Shaqi
The Deipnosophists; or, Banquet of the Learned of Athenæus, Vol. 3 (of 3)Athenaeus, of Naucratis
Philosophy
The Deipnosophists; or, Banquet of the Learned of Athenæus, Vol. 3 (of 3)
Athenaeus, of Naucratis
Civilization, Greco-Roman; Dinners and dining -- Greece; Greece -- Social life and customs; Homosexuality -- Greece
6. On which account Megaclides finds fault with those poets who came
after Homer and Hesiod, and have written about Hercules, relating how
he led armies and took cities,—who passed the greater part of his life
among men in the most excessive pleasure, and married a greater number
of women than any other man; and who had unacknowledged children, by a
greater number of virgins, than any other man. For any one might say to
those who do not admit all this—"Whence, my good friends, is it that
you attribute to him all this excessive love of eating; or whence is it
that the custom has originated among men of leaving nothing in the cup
when we pour a libation to Hercules, if he had no regard for pleasure?
or why are the hot springs which rise out of the ground universally
said to be sacred to Hercules; or why are people in the habit of
calling soft couches the beds of Hercules, if he despised all those who
live luxuriously?" Accordingly, says he, the later poets represent him
as going about in the guise of a robber by himself, having a club, and
a lion's hide, and his bow. And they say that Stesichorus of Himera was
the original inventor of this fable. But Xanthus the lyric poet, who
was more ancient than Stesichorus, as Stesichorus himself tells us,
does not, according to the statement of Megaclides, clothe him in this
dress, but in that which Homer gives him. But Stesichorus perverted a
great many of the accounts given by Xanthus, as he does also in the
case of what is called the Orestea. But Antisthenes, when he said that
pleasure was a good, added—"such as brought no repentance in its
train."
7. But Ulysses, in Homer, appears to have been the original guide to
Epicurus, in the matter of that pleasure which he has always in his
mouth; for Ulysses says to Alcinous—
. . . . . . . Thou whom first in sway,
As first in virtue, these thy realms obey,
How goodly seems it ever to employ
Man's social days in union and in joy!
The plenteous board high heap'd with cates divine,
And o'er the foaming bowl the laughing wine,
The well-fill'd palace, the perpetual feast,
Are of all joys most lasting and the best.
[Sidenote: A LOVE OF PLEASURE.]
But Megaclides says that Ulysses is here adapting himself to the
times, for the sake of appearing to be of the same disposition as the
Phæacians; and that with that view he embraces their luxurious habits,
as he had already heard from Alcinous, speaking of his whole nation—
To dress, to dance, to sing, our sole delight,
The feast or bath by day, and love by night;
for he thought that that would be the only way by which he could
avoid failing in the hopes he cherished. And a similar man is he who
recommends Amphilochus his son—
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