The Diplomatic Correspondence of the American Revolution, Vol. 08
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The Diplomatic Correspondence of the American Revolution, Vol. 08
United States -- Foreign relations -- 1775-1783; United States -- History -- Revolution, 1775-1783 -- Sources
vested with equal powers, a treaty of amity and
commerce.--Reply of the Count d'Aranda, declaring
himself vested with ample powers to treat.--Visit of the
Count d'Aranda to Versailles.--M. Rayneval goes to
England.--Probable objects of his visit.--Conversation
with Mr Vaughan on the subject of M. Rayneval's
visit.--Mr Jay represents the expediency of treating
with America on an equal footing; the inexpediency of
attempting to exclude the Americans from the fisheries;
and of restricting the western boundary and the
navigation of the Mississippi.--Mr Vaughan goes to
England to communicate these views to Lord
Shelburne.--Proposed draft of a letter to the Count de
Vergennes, containing objections to Mr Oswald's
commission; it does not designate the United States by
their proper title; it empowers him to treat with bodies
not having authority to treat by the American
constitution; it calls in question the independence of
the United States; precedents from acts of Congress;
America has treated with other powers as an independent
State; precedents from other States under similar
circumstances; detail of the history of the early
negotiations of the United Provinces with Spain, showing
that they treated with other powers on an equal footing,
and refused to negotiate with Spain except in like
manner; the independence exists in fact, and not as a
grant from Great Britain.--Conversation between Mr Jay,
the Count d'Aranda, and the Marquis de Lafayette, on the
propriety of Spain's treating with America on an equal
footing.--The Count de Vergennes states the object of M.
Rayneval's visit to England to be, to judge of the real
views of the English Ministry.--The claims of Spain to
countries east of the Mississippi are of recent
origin.--Conversation with M. Rayneval on this
subject.--Mr Oswald receives a new commission, under
which articles are agreed on.--Conversation between
Messrs Jay and Franklin and M. Rayneval on the
boundaries and fisheries.--The policy of the French
Court is directed to prevent a cordial reconciliation
between America and England, and thus to keep the United
States dependent on France.
Observations of the Editor on the above letter, 208
Pointing out the misapprehensions of Mr Jay as to the
objects of M. Rayneval's visit to England.
Robert R. Livingston to John Jay. Philadelphia, November
23d, 1782, 212
Complains of want of information from the Ministers in
Europe.--English Commissioners will meet with no success
in America.--Mr Barlow's poem.--Mr Boudinot elected
President of Congress.
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