when the woman saw Samuel, she cried out_, then she said, _she saw gods ascending out of the earth_, and now after all this discourse and expence of time _Samuel_ is but coming up, all was lies and delayes the more to blind and delude the poor credulous King. But yet thus far it is plain that _Saul_ saw nothing at all, and so must needs all this while, either be in another room, or else for certain there was no apparition visible, and all the satisfaction that he had, was from the lying stories the Woman told him. Now let Mr. _Glanvil_ consider and answer, whether it be not only intimated, but clearly holden forth in the Text that either they were in two distinct rooms, or that nothing visible did appear before _Saul_. 7. Now after all this the Text saith, _and Saul perceived that it was Samuel_, the Hebrew word doth signifie to know or to perceive, and relates to the understanding: but how did he know, or perceive that it was _Samuel_? not by the sight of his eyes, for we have made it plain that he was either in another room, or that no visible apparition presented it self before his eyes, but he only perceived it by the description of the crafty Woman, who knew well enough what habit or garments _Samuel_ wore in his life time, as one that was the most publickly known Man in _Israel_: and therefore the subtil and crafty quean, knowing that _Saul_ only required _Samuel_ to be brought up and no other, doth at the last frame her tale agreeable to _Sauls_ desire, and so describes him an old Man, covered with a mantle, and such an one _Saul_ had known him to be, while he was living. But if _Saul_ had seen any such thing as the shape or form of _Samuel_, then the Hebrew Verb thrice used in that action, that properly signifieth to see with the eyes, would have been used in this place (as well as when it relateth what she saw) and not the verb for knowing or perceiving that relateth to the mind, and _Samuel_ he saw not, but only believed the lies she told him. For otherwise it would have been, And _Saul_ saw _Samuel_, and not, _Saul_ perceived that it was _Samuel_, which he could not do but only by her relation, and forged tales. 8. The last thing in this action, is, that _Saul stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself_: now to what did he stoop and bow, seeing he had seen nothing with his own eyes, neither knew any thing that appeared, but as the Woman told him? Could it be to any thing but to an imaginary _Samuel_ and such an one as she had described, whom he conceited in his Phantasie to be _Samuel_ himself? Surely in rational consequence it could be nothing else. For all that she had done and said before, being undeniably lies and cheats, this also in just and right reason, must be judged to be so also. So that it was either the Woman, that being in another room, did change and alter her voice, and so plaid the part of _Samuel_, or else that she had a confederate knave, whom she turned out to act the part of dead _Samuel_.