The first philosophers of Greece : $b An edition and translation of the remaining fragments of the pre-Sokratic philosophers, together with a translation of the more important accounts of their opinions contained in the early epitomes of their worksFairbanks, Arthur
Philosophy
The first philosophers of Greece : $b An edition and translation of the remaining fragments of the pre-Sokratic philosophers, together with a translation of the more important accounts of their opinions contained in the early epitomes of their works
Fairbanks, Arthur
Philosophy, Ancient
them, and they bring forward as proof that each one of these is number,
and the result then is that at this place there is already a multitude
of compounded quantities because those states of number have each their
place—is this number in heaven the same which it is necessary to assume
that each of these things is, or is it something different? Plato says it
is different; still, he thinks that both these things and the causes of
them are numbers; but the one class are ideal causes, and the others are
sense causes.
ii. 1; 996 a 4. And the most difficult and perplexing question of all
is whether unity and being are not, as Plato and the Pythagoreans say,
something different from things but their very essence, or whether the
underlying substance is something different, friendship, as Empedokles
says, or as another says, fire, or water, or air.
ii. 4; 1001 a 9. Plato and the Pythagoreans assert that neither being nor
yet unity is something different from things, but that it is the very
nature of them, as though essence itself consisted in unity and existence.
1036 b 17. So it turns out that many things of which the forms appear
different have one form, as the Pythagoreans discovered; and one can say
that there is one form for everything, and the others are not forms; and
thus all things will be one.
ix. 2; 1053 b 11. Whether the one itself is a sort of essence, as first
the Pythagoreans and later Plato affirmed....
xi. 7; 1072 b 31. And they are wrong who assume, as do the Pythagoreans
and Speusippos, that the most beautiful and the best is not in the first
principle, because the first principles of plants and animals are indeed
causes; for that which is beautiful and perfect is in what comes from
these first principles.
xii. 4; 1078 b 21. The Pythagoreans (before Demokritos) only defined
a few things, the concepts of which they reduced to numbers, as for
instance opportunity or justice or marriage....
xii. 6; 1080 b 16. The Pythagoreans say that there is but one number,
the mathematical, but things of sense are not separated from this,
for they are composed of it; indeed, they construct the whole heaven
out of numbers, but not out of unit numbers, for they assume that the
unities have quantity; but how the first unity was so constituted as
to have quantity, they seem at a loss to say. b 31. All, as many as
regard the one as the element and first principle of things, except
the Pythagoreans, assert that numbers are based on the unit; but the
Pythagoreans assert, as has been remarked, that numbers have quantity.
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