7. Having told them that He Himself is the way, He now proceeds to point out to them that if they had known this way in the manner they ought, they should also have known the term towards which it led. Hence the sense is: You would know the Father to whom I go, if you knew Me; for I and the Father are the same divine substance (John x. 30). Thomas had said that they did not know the term of Christ’s journey, and therefore could not know the way thereto, implying that the way was to be known from, or at least after, the term to which it led. Christ now declares that the reverse is the case; and if they had known Him, the way, they should also have known the Father. The words: *If you had known me*, imply that they had not yet known Christ as they ought. They had indeed known Him to some extent as He admits in verse 4, but they had not realized fully His Divinity and consubstantiality with the Father, else they would have implicitly known the Father in knowing Him. *And from henceforth you shall know him, and you have seen him.* We would render the Greek thus: “And _even now_ (see John xiii. 19) you know Him, and you have seen Him.” The sense is, that even now they knew the Father in some way through their imperfect knowledge of Christ, and they had seen Him in seeing Christ, because, as Christ adds in verse 9: “He who seeth me, seeth the Father also.” Thus it was true that in an imperfect manner they knew whither Christ went, and the way thereto (verse 4), yet equally true that they knew neither way nor term so clearly as they might, considering that He had now for more than three years been gradually revealing Himself to them. 8. Dicit ei Philippus: Domine, 8. Philip saith to him: Lord ostende nobis Patrem, et show us the Father, and it is sufficit nobis. enough for us. 8. Thomas is silenced, but Philip now interposes, and failing to understand Christ’s statement that they had seen the Father, asks Him to show them the Father, probably in some visible form, and then they will ask no more. 9. Dicit ei Iesus: Tanto 9. Jesus saith to him:. So tempore vobiscum sum: et non long a time have I been with cognovistis me? Philippe, qui you: and have you not known videt me, videt et Patrem. me? Philip, he that seeth me Quomodo tu dicis: Ostende seeth the Father also. How nobis Patrem? sayest thou, show us the Father.