The Greville Memoirs, Part 3 (of 3), Volume 2 (of 2): A Journal of the Reign of Queen Victoria from 1852 to 1860Greville, Charles
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The Greville Memoirs, Part 3 (of 3), Volume 2 (of 2): A Journal of the Reign of Queen Victoria from 1852 to 1860
Greville, Charles
Great Britain -- History -- Victoria, 1837-1901
It is much the same thing about Nicolaieff, as to which the Emperor
appears at present disposed to back us up. Lewis disapproves of our
_exigeances_ and Palmerston's tone. He thinks on both points the
Russians have good cases, and that Palmerston and Clarendon are only
fighting for them in order to have a more plausible and showy peace
to set before the country. He says we never thought of demanding
the destruction of the docks of Nicolaieff _at first_, and that our
demanding it now is a mere afterthought, and in pursuance of the plan
of starting as many demands as we can to take the chance of what we
can get. Lewis disapproves of this course, and urged me to encourage
Clarendon not to lend himself to exigencies unjust in themselves, but
to do what he really thinks right and necessary without fear of the
consequences.
[Sidenote: DEBATE ON LIFE PEERAGES.]
When we had done talking of this matter he said he wanted to speak
to me about the Peerage question, which had assumed a shape which he
thought menaced great embarrassment, if not danger. The Government, he
said, would not give way, and he was himself opposed to their doing
so; but what was to be done? I said I did not see what the Government
could do, nor why they should not give way when they had resolved to
fight and had been fairly beaten; but he thought they should stultify
themselves by acknowledging they had been wrong, and that such a
course would oblige the Chancellor to resign. I controverted these
propositions and said they would stultify themselves much more, if from
motives of vanity and pride they chose to let the House of Lords remain
without that assistance to obtain which was the pretext for Parke's
creation. On the whole, Lewis seemed to think the least objectionable
course would be to pass a bill enabling the Crown to make a certain
number of Life Peers, but he overlooked the fact that this would be as
much a confession of error, and an acknowledgement that the Queen had
no such prerogative, as to make Lord Wensleydale an hereditary Peer. My
advice was to make him an hereditary Viscount. I was obliged to go away
and had not time to talk it out. In the afternoon, I spoke to Campbell
and Lyndhurst about it, and asked what they proposed, and how the
difficulty was to be got over. They naturally want the Government to
knock under and give up the hereditary peerage; they both scouted the
idea of Parke coming down to the House of Lords and insisting on being
admitted and making a scene. Lyndhurst to-night is to give notice of
motion for a Committee to consider the Appellate Jurisdiction.
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