"But why worship Saints at alle?" persisted _Will_; "where's your Warrant for it?" I sayd, "Heaven has warranted it by sundrie and speciall Miracles at divers Times and Places. I may say to you, _Will_, as _Socrates_ to _Agathon_, 'You may easilie argue agaynst me, but you cannot argue agaynst the Truth.'" "Oh, put me not off with _Plato_," he impatientlie replyed, "refer me but to Holie Writ." "How can I," quoth I, "when you have ta'en away my Testament ere I had half gone through it? 'Tis this Book, I fear me, poor _Will_, hath unsettled thee. Our Church, indeed, sayth the Unlearned wrest it to theire Destruction." "And yet the Apostle sayth," rejoyned _Will_, "that it contayns alle Things necessarie to our Salvation." "Doubtlesse it doth, if we knew but where to find them," I replied. "And how find, unlesse we seeke?" he pursued, "and how know which Road to take, when we find the Scripture and the Church at Issue?" "Get some wiser Head to advise us," I rejoyned. "But an' if the Obstacle remains the same?" "I cannot suppose that," I somewhat impatientlie returned, "GOD'S Word and GOD'S Church must agree; 'tis only we that make them at Issue." "Ah, _Meg_, that is just such an Answer as Father _Francis_ mighte give--it solves noe Difficultie. If, to alle human Reason, they pull opposite Ways, by which shall we abide? I know; I am certain. '_Tu, Domine Jesu, es Justicia mea!_'" He looked soe rapt, with claspt Hands and upraysed Eyes, as that I coulde not but look on him and hear him with Solemnitie. At length I sayd, "If you know and are certayn, you have noe longer anie Doubts for me to lay, and with your Will, we will holde this Discourse noe longer, for however moving and however considerable its Subject Matter may be, it approaches forbidden Ground too nearlie for me to feel it safe, and I question whether it savoureth not of Heresie. However, _Will_, I most heartilie pitie you, and will pray for you." "Do, _Meg_, do," he replyed, "and say nought to any one of this Matter." "Indeede I shall not, for I think 'twoulde bring you if not me into Trouble; but, since thou haste soughte my Council, _Will_, receive it now and take it...." He sayth, "What is it?" "To read less, pray more, fast, and use such Discipline as our Church recommends, and I question not this Temptation will depart. Make a fayr Triall." And soe, away from him, though he woulde fain have sayd more; and I have kept mine own Worde of praying for him full earnestlie, for it pitieth me to see him in such Case. _Sept. 2nd._