The Irish Ecclesiastical Record, Volume 1, March 1865
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The Irish Ecclesiastical Record, Volume 1, March 1865
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_Answer:_ According to a ceremonial much esteemed in Rome, published by
a missionary of St. Vincent, in Bologna, 1854, l. iv. no. 1484, the
priest is bound to wait. The choir _agit partem ministri_ in its answers
at High Mass, and on that account the priest must wait until it responds
to him, as on other occasions he waits until the server or clerk
terminates his answers.
After the priest has sung "Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum", he must also
wait until the choir has sung "Et cum spiritu tuo", before he says "Haec
commixtio", etc.
3º. When the deacon has sung "Ite Missa est", can the celebrant, without
waiting for the choir to answer "Deo gratias", turn to the altar and say
the prayer "Placeat"?
_Answer_: The _Caeremoniale_, Ep. l. ii. c. viii. no. 78, says: "Diaconus
vertit faciem ad populum, renes autem celebranti ... et cantat (Ite missa
est) ... quo dicto, _ipse_ et _celebrans simul_ vertunt se per latus
epistolae ad altare, et celebrans dicit (Placeat tibi, S. Trinitas,
etc)". As the singing of "Deo gratias" occupies so short a time, it will
terminate before the priest can turn to the altar; in any case, he ought
not to commence the Placeat until the choir has responded.
CORRESPONDENCE.
Kilkee, February 7th, 1865.
_To the Editors of the Irish Ecclesiastical Record._
GENTLEMEN,
Be pleased to allow me to bring under your notice a slight mistake
noticeable in the January issue of your _Record_, and in doing so
I may be permitted to express my great satisfaction, and that of
all those who spoke to me on the subject, with the interesting and
varied matter in your _Record_. Your high character, not to speak
of stronger reasons, will secure for your statements a ready
acceptance with Catholics, and this, coupled with the very faultless
character of your extensively read periodical, renders me anxious
to have it the medium of correction to its own mistakes, however
slight. The learned writer on the Irish sees of the sixteenth
century, speaking of the vicissitudes of Clonmacnois, and of its
subjection to the metropolitical see of Tuam, says, in p. 158 of
the _Record_: "This change probably took place during the episcopate
of Bishop Symon of the Order of St. Dominick, who, though omitted
in the lists of Ware and De Burgo, was appointed to the see on
the death of Dr. Henry in 1349". Now, Symon was never Bishop of
Clonmacnois. Indeed, as remarked by the learned writer in the
_Record_, Theiner gives, in page 291, the bull of his appointment.
But the appointment was null, as the see was not vacant by the death
of Dr. Henry. Hence, by looking to the next page of Theiner, you
will see how good Pope Clement VI. acknowledges and rectifies the
mistake by appointing Symon to the see of Kildare, then vacant.
The report of Dr. Henry's death was unfounded; therefore, as
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