M^r Wilson did not well see on what principle the admission of blacks in the proportion of three fifths could be explained. Are they admitted as Citizens? then why are they not admitted on an equality with White Citizens? are they admitted as property? then why is not other property admitted into the computation? These were difficulties however which he thought must be overruled by the necessity of compromise. He had some apprehensions also from the tendency of the blending of the blacks with the whites, to give disgust to the people of Pen^a, as had been intimated by his Colleague (M^r Gov^r Morris). But he differed from him in thinking numbers of inhab^{ts} so incorrect a measure of wealth. He had seen the Western settlem^{ts} of P^a and on a comparison of them with the City of Philad^a could discover little other difference, than that property was more unequally divided among individuals here than there. Taking the same number in the aggregate in the two situations he believed there would be little difference in their wealth and ability to contribute to the public wants. M^r Gov^r Morris was compelled to declare himself reduced to the dilemma of doing injustice to the Southern States or to human nature, and he must therefore do it to the former. For he could never agree to give such encouragement to the Slave Trade as would be given by allowing them a representation for their negroes, and he did not believe those States would ever confederate on terms that would deprive them of that trade. On Question for agreeing to include 3/5 of the blacks Mass^{ts} no. Con^t ay. N. J. no. P^a no. Del. no. M^d[130] no. V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. no. Geo. ay. [130] (M^r Carrol s^d in explanation of the vote of M^d that he wished the phraseology to be so altered as to obviate if possible the danger which had been expressed of giving umbrage to the Eastern & Middle States.) Note in Madison's hand. On the question as to taking census "the first year after the meeting of the Legislature" Mass^{ts} ay. Con^t no. N. J. ay. P^a ay. Del. ay. M^d no. V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. no. On filling the blank for the periodical census, with 15 years. Agreed to nem. con. M^r Madison moved to add, after "15 years," the words "at least" that the Legislature might anticipate when circumstances were likely to render a particular year inconvenient. On this motion for adding "at least," it passed in the negative the States being equally divided. Mas. ay. Con^t no. N. J. no. P^a no. Del. no. M^d no. V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay. A Change of the phraseology of the other clause so as to read, "and the Legislature shall alter or augment the representation accordingly," was agreed to nem. con. On the question on the whole resolution of M^r Williamson as amended, Mas. no. Con^t no. N. J. no. Del. no. M^d no. V^a no. N. C. no. S. C. no. Geo. no.