The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 1Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 1
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
[34] "... What will be the result of their meeting I cannot with
any certainty determine, but I hardly think much good can
come of it; the people of America don't appear to me to be
ripe for any great innovations & it seems they are
ultimately to ratify or reject: the weight of Gen^l
Washington as you justly observe is very great in America,
but I hardly think it is sufficient to induce the people to
pay money or part with power.
"The delegates from the Eastw^d are for a very strong
government, & wish to prostrate all y^e State legislatures,
& form a general system out of y^e whole; but I don't learn
that the people are with them, on y^e contrary in
Massachusetts they think that government too strong, & are
about rebelling again, for the purpose of making it more
democratical: In Connecticut they have rejected the
requisition for y^e present year decidedly, & no Man there
would be elected to the office of a constable if he was to
declare that he meant to pay a copper towards the domestic
debt:--R. Island has refused to send members--the cry there
is for a good government after they have paid their debts in
depreciated paper:--first demolish the Philistines (i. e.
their creditors) then for _propiety_.
"N. Hampshire has not paid a shilling, since peace, & does
not ever mean to pay on to all eternity:--if it was
attempted to tax the people for y^e domestic debt 500 Shays
would arise in a fortnight.--In N. York they pay well
because they can do it by plundering N. Jersey &
Connecticut.--Jersey will go great lengths from motives of
revenge and Interest: Pensylvany will join provided you let
the sessions of the Executive of America be fixed in
Philad^a & give her other advantages in trade to compensate
for the loss of State power. I shall make no observations on
the Southern States, but I think they will be (perhaps from
different motives) as little disposed to part with efficient
power as any in the Union...."--William Grayson to James
Monroe, New York, May 29, 1787. _Monroe MSS._
Adjourned.
WEDNESDAY MAY 30.
Roger Sherman (from Connecticut) took his seat.
The House went into Committee of the Whole on the State of the Union.
M^r Gorham was elected to the Chair by Ballot.
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