The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 1Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 1
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
[36] "M. Gerry's character is marked for integrity and
perseverance. He is a hesitating and laborious
speaker;--possesses a great degree of confidence and goes
extensively into all subjects that he speaks on, without
respect to elegance or flower of diction. He is connected
and sometimes clear in his arguments, conceives well, and
cherishes as his first virtue, a love for his Country. Mr.
Gerry is very much of a Gentleman in his principles and
manners;--he has been engaged in the mercantile line and is
a Man of property. He is about 37 years of age."--Pierce's
Notes, _Am. Hist. Rev._, iii., 325.
M^r Gov^r Morris explained the distinction between a _federal_ and
_national_, _supreme_, Gov^t; the former being a mere compact resting on
the good faith of the parties; the latter having a compleat and
_compulsive_ operation. He contended that in all Communities there must
be one supreme power, and one only.
M^r Mason observed that the present confederation was not only deficient
in not providing for coercion & punishment ag^{st} delinquent States;
but argued very cogently that punishment could not in the nature of
things be executed on the States collectively, and therefore that such a
Gov^t was necessary as could directly operate on individuals, and would
punish those only whose guilt required it.
M^r Sherman[37] who took his seat today, admitted that the Confederation
had not given sufficient power to Cong^s and that additional powers were
necessary; particularly that of raising money which he said would
involve many other powers. He admitted also that the General &
particular jurisdictions ought in no case to be concurrent. He seemed
however not to be disposed to make too great inroads on the existing
system; intimating as one reason, that it would be wrong to lose every
amendment, by inserting such as would not be agreed to by the States.
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