The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 1Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 1
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
But, sir, in the present mode of voting by States, it is equally
in the power of the lesser States to swallow up the greater; and
this is mathematically demonstrable. Suppose for example, that 7
smaller States had each 3 members in the House, and the 6 larger
to have one with another 6 members; and that upon a question,
two members of each smaller State should be in the affirmative
and one in the Negative, they would make
Affirmatives 14 Negatives 7
And that all the larger States
should be unanimously in
the Negative, they would
make Negatives 36
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In all 43
It is then apparent that the 14 carry the question against the
43, and the minority overpowers the majority, contrary to the
common practice of Assemblies in all Countries and Ages.
The greater States Sir are naturally as unwilling to have their
property left in the disposition of the smaller, as the smaller
are to have theirs in the disposition of the greater. An
honorable gentleman has, to avoid this difficulty, hinted a
proposition of equalizing the States. It appears to me an
equitable one, and I should, for my own part, not be against
such a measure, if it might be found practicable. Formerly,
indeed, when almost every province had a different Constitution,
some with greater others with fewer privileges, it was of
importance to the borderers when their boundaries were
contested, whether by running the division lines, they were
placed on one side or the other. At present when such
differences are done away, it is less material. The Interest of
a State is made up of the interests of its individual members.
If they are not injured, the State is not injured. Small States
are more easily well & happily governed than large ones. If
therefore in such an equal division, it should be found
necessary to diminish Pennsylvania, I should not be averse to
the giving a part of it to N. Jersey, and another to Delaware.
But as there would probably be considerable difficulties in
adjusting such a division; and however equally made at first, it
would be continually varying by the augmentation of inhabitants
in some States, and their fixed proportion in others; and thence
frequent occasion for new divisions, I beg leave to propose for
the consideration of the Committee another mode, which appears
to me to be as equitable, more easily carried into practice, and
more permanent in its nature.
Let the weakest State say what proportion of money or force it
is able and willing to furnish for the general purposes of the
Union.
Let all the others oblige themselves to furnish each an equal
proportion.
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