The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
M^r King remarked that the section authorized the 2 Houses to adjourn to
a new place. He thought this inconvenient. The mutability of place had
dishonored the federal Gov^t and would require as strong a cure as we
could devise. He thought a law at least should be made necessary to a
removal of the Seat of Gov^t.
M^r Madison viewed the subject in the same light, and joined with M^r
King in a motion requiring a law.
Mr. Govern^r Morris proposed the additional alteration by inserting the
words, "during the Session" &c.
M^r Spaight. This will fix the seat of Gov^t at N. Y. The present
Congress will convene them there in the first instance, and they will
never be able to remove, especially if the Presid^t should be [a]
Northern Man.
M^r Gov^r Morris such a distrust is inconsistent with all Gov^t.
M^r Madison supposed that a central place for the seat of Gov^t was so
just and w^d be so much insisted on by the H. of Representatives, that
though a law should be made requisite for the purpose, it could & would
be obtained. The necessity of a central residence of the Gov^t w^d be
much greater under the new than old Gov^t. The members of the new Gov^t
w^d be more numerous. They would be taken more from the interior parts
of the States; they w^d not like members of y^e present Cong^s come so
often from the distant States by water. As the powers & objects of the
new Gov^t would be far greater y^e heretofore, more private individuals
w^d have business calling them to the seat of it, and it was more
necessary that the Gov^t should be in that position from which it could
contemplate with the most equal eye, and sympathize most equally with,
every part of the nation. These considerations he supposed would extort
a removal even if a law were made necessary. But in order to quiet
suspicions both within & without doors, it might not be amiss to
authorize the 2 Houses by a concurrent vote to adjourn at their first
meeting to the most proper place, and to require thereafter, the
sanction of a law to their removal.
The motion was accordingly moulded into the following form: "the
Legislature shall at their first assembling determine on a place at
which their future sessions shall be held; neither House shall
afterwards, during the session of the House of Rep^s without the consent
of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor shall they adjourn
to any other place than such as shall have been fixt by law."
M^r Gerry thought it would be wrong to let the Presid^t check the will
of the 2 Houses on this subject at all.
M^r Williamson supported the ideas of M^r Spaight.
M^r Carrol was actuated by the same apprehensions.
M^r Mercer, it will serve no purpose to require the two Houses at their
first meeting to fix on a place. They will never agree.
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