The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
Col. Mason was struck not like (Mr. Madison) with the _peculiarity_, but
the _propriety_ of the doctrine of M^r Sherman. The States have formed
different qualifications themselves, for enjoying different rights of
citizenship. Greater caution w^d be necessary in the outset of the Gov^t
than afterwards. All the great objects w^d then be provided for. Every
thing would be then set in motion. If persons among us attached to G. B.
should work themselves into our Councils, a turn might be given to our
affairs & particularly to our Commercial regulations which might have
pernicious consequences. The Great Houses of British Merchants will
spare no pains to insinuate the instruments of their views into the
Gov^t.
M^r Wilson read the clause in the Constitution of Pen^a giving to
foreigners after two years residence all the rights whatsoever of
Citizens. Combined it with the article of Confederation making the
Citizens of one State Citizens of all, inferred the obligation Pen^a was
under to maintain the faith thus pledged to her citizens of foreign
birth, and the just complaints which her failure would authorize: He
observed likewise that the Princes & States of Europe would avail
themselves of such breach of faith to deter their subjects from
emigration to the U. S.
M^r Mercer enforced the same idea of a breach of faith.
M^r Baldwin could not enter into the force of the arguments ag^{st}
extending the disqualification to foreigners now Citizens. The
discrimination of the place of birth, was not more objectionable than
that of age which all had concurred in the propriety of.
Question on the proviso of M^r Gov^r Morris in favor of foreigners now
Citizens
N. H. no. Mass. no. C^t ay. N. J. ay. P^a ay. Del. no.
Mary^d ay. V^t ay. N. C. no. S. C. no. Geo. no.
M^r Carrol moved to insert "5 years" instead of "seven" in Sect. 2^d
Art: IV
N. H. no. Mass. no. C^t ay. N. J. no. P^a div^d. Del. no. M^d
ay. V^a ay. N. C. no. S. C. no. Geo. no.
The Section (Art IV. Sec. 2.) as formerly amended was then agreed to
nem. con.
M^r Wilson moved that (in Art: V. Sect. 3.) 9 years be reduced to seven,
which was disag^d to and the 3^d section (Art. V.) confirmed by the
following vote.
N. H. ay. Mass. ay. C^t no. N. J. ay. P^a no. Del. ay. M^d no.
V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
Art. IV. Sec. 5. being reconsidered.
M^r Randolph moved that the clause be altered so as to read--"Bills for
raising money for the _purpose of revenue_ or for appropriating the same
shall originate in the House of Representatives and shall not be so
amended or altered by the Senate as to increase or diminish the sum to
be raised, or change the mode of levying it, or the object of its
appropriation."--He would not repeat his reasons, but barely remind the
members from the smaller States of the compromise by which the larger
States were entitled to this privilege.
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