The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
M^r Mercer. It is a first principle in political science, that whenever
the rights of property are secured, an aristocracy will grow out of it.
Elective Governments also necessarily become aristocratic, because the
rulers being few can & will draw emoluments for themselves from the
many. The Governments of America will become aristocracies. They are so
already. The public measures are calculated for the benefit of the
Governors, not of the people. The people are dissatisfied & complain.
They change their rulers, and the public measures are changed, but it is
only a change of one scheme of emolument to the rulers, for another. The
people gain nothing by it, but an addition of instability & uncertainty
to their other evils.--Governm^{ts} can only be maintained by _force_ or
_influence_. The Executive has not _force_, deprive him of influence by
rendering the members of the Legislature ineligible to Executive
offices, and he becomes a mere phantom of authority. The Aristocratic
part will not even let him in for a share of the plunder. The
Legislature must & will be composed of wealth & abilities, and the
people will be governed by a Junto. The Executive ought to have a
Council, being members of both Houses. Without such an influence, the
war will be between the aristocracy & the people. He wished it to be
between the Aristocracy & the Executive. Nothing else can protect the
people ag^{st} those speculating Legislatures which are now plundering
them throughout the U. States.
M^r Gerry read a Resolution of the Legislature of Mass^{ts} passed
before the Act of Cong^s recommending the Convention, in which her
deputies were instructed not to depart from the rotation established in
the 5^{th} art: of Confederation, nor to agree in any case to give to
the members of Cong^s a capacity to hold offices under the Government.
This he said was repealed in consequence of the Act of Cong^s with which
the State thought it proper to comply in an unqualified manner. The
Sense of the State however was Still the same. He could not think with
M^r Pinkney that the disqualification was degrading. Confidence is the
road to tyranny. As to Ministers & Ambassadors few of them were
necessary. It is the opinion of a great many that they ought to be
discontinued, on our part; that none may be sent among us, & that source
of influence be shut up. If the Senate were to appoint Ambassadors as
seemed to be intended, they will multiply embassies for their own sakes.
He was not so fond of those productions as to wish to establish
nurseries for them. If they are once appointed, the House of Rep^s will
be obliged to provide salaries for them, whether they approve of the
measures or not. If men will not serve in the Legislature without a
prospect of such offices, our situation is deplorable indeed. If our
best Citizens are actuated by such mercenary views we had better chuse a
single despot at once. It will be more easy to satisfy the rapacity of
one than of many.
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