The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
M^r Williamson; introduced his opposition to the motion by referring to
the question concerning "money bills." That clause he said was dead. Its
Ghost he was afraid would notwithstanding haunt us. It had been a matter
of conscience with him, to insist upon it as long as there was hope of
retaining it. He had swallowed the vote of rejection, with reluctance.
He could not digest it. All that was said on the other side was that the
restriction was not _convenient_. We have now got a House of Lords which
is to originate money-bills.--To avoid another _inconveniency_, we are
to have a whole Legislature at liberty to cut out offices for one
another. He thought a self-denying ordinance for ourselves would be more
proper. Bad as the Constitution has been made by expunging the
restriction on the Senate concerning money bills he did not wish to make
it worse by expunging the present Section. He had scarcely seen a single
corrupt measure in the Legislature of N. Carolina, which could not be
traced up to office hunting.
M^r Sherman. The Constitution sh^d lay as few temptations as possible in
the way of those in power. Men of abilities will increase as the Country
grows more populous and as the means of education are more diffused.
M^r Pinkney. No State has rendered the members of the Legislature
ineligible to offices. In S. Carolina the Judges are eligible into the
Legislature. It cannot be supposed then that the motion will be
offensive to the people. If the State Constitutions should be revised he
believed restrictions of this sort w^d be rather diminished than
multiplied.
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