M^r Madison, observing that if the negative of the President was confined to _bills_; it would be evaded by acts under the form and name of Resolutions, votes &c., proposed that "or resolve" should be added after "_bill_" in the beginning of sect 13. with an exception as to votes of adjournment &c. After a short and rather confused conversation on the subject, the question was put & rejected, the States being as follows, N. H. no. Mass. ay. C^t no. N. J. no. Pen^a no. Del. ay. M^d no. V^a no. N. C. ay. S. C. no. Geo. no. "_Ten_ days (Sundays excepted)" instead of "_seven_" were allowed to the President for returning bills with his objections N. H. & Mas: only voting ag^{st} it. The 13 Sect: of Art. VI as amended was then agreed to. Adjourned. THURSDAY. AUGUST 16. IN CONVENTION. M^r Randolph having thrown into a new form the motion putting votes, Resolutions &c. on a footing with Bills, renewed it as follows--"Every order resolution or vote, to which the concurrence of the Senate & House of Rep^s may be necessary (except on a question of adjournment and in the cases hereinafter mentioned) shall be presented to the President for his revision; and before the same shall have force shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him shall be repassed by the Senate & House of Rep^s according to the rules & limitations prescribed in the case of a Bill." M^r Sherman thought it unnecessary, except as to votes taking money out of the Treasury which might be provided for in another place. On Question as moved by M^r Randolph N. H. ay. Mass. not present. C^t ay. N. J. no. P^a ay. Del. ay. M^d ay. V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay. The Amendment was made section 14. of Art. VI. Art: VII. Sect. 1. taken up. M^r L. Martin asked what was meant by the Committee of detail in the expression,--"_duties_" and "_imposts_." If the meaning were the same, the former was unnecessary; if different, the matter ought to be made clear. M^r Wilson. _Duties_ are applicable to many objects to which the word _imposts_ does not relate. The latter are appropriated to commerce; the former extend to a variety of objects, as stamp duties &c. M^r Carroll reminded the Convention of the great difference of interests among the States, and doubts the propriety in that point of view of letting a majority be a quorum.