The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
M^r Wilson. It will have a most salutary influence on the credit of the
U. States to remove the possibility of paper money. This expedient can
never succeed whilst its mischiefs are remembered. And as long as it can
be resorted to, it will be a bar to other resources.
M^r Butler remarked that paper was a legal tender in no Country in
Europe. He was urgent for disarming the Government of such a power.
M^r Mason was still averse to tying the hands of the Legislature
_altogether_. If there was no example in Europe as just remarked it
might be observed on the other side, that there was none in which the
Government was restrained on this head.
M^r Read, thought the words, if not struck out, would be as alarming as
the mark of the Beast in Revelations.
M^r Langdon had rather reject the whole plan than retain the three words
("and emit bills").
On the motion for striking out
N.H. ay. Mass. ay. C^t ay. N.J. no. P^a ay. Del. ay. M^d no.
V^a ay.[31] N.C. ay. S.C. ay. Geo. ay.
[31] This vote in the affirmative by Virg^a was occasioned
by the acquiescence of M^r Madison who became satisfied that
striking out the words would not disable the Gov^t from the
use of public notes as far as they could be safe & proper; &
would only cut off the pretext for a paper currency and
particularly for making the bills a tender either for public
or private debts.--Madison's Note.
The clause for borrowing money, agreed to nem. con.
Adj^d.
FRIDAY AUGUST 17. IN CONVENTION
Art. VII. Sect. 1. resumed, on the clause, "to appoint Treasurer by
ballot,"
M^r Ghorum moved to insert "joint" before ballot, as more convenient as
well as reasonable, than to require the separate concurrence of the
Senate.
M^r Pinkney 2^{ds} the motion. M^r Sherman opposed it as favoring the
larger States.
M^r Read moved to strike out the clause, leaving the appointment of the
Treasurer as of other officers to the Executive. The Legislature was an
improper body for appointments. Those of the State legislatures were a
proof of it. The Executive being responsible would make a good choice.
M^r Mercer 2^{ds} the motion of M^r Read.
On the motion for inserting the word "joint" before ballot
N.H. ay. Mass. ay. C^t no. N.J. no. P^a ay. M^d no. V^a ay.
N.C. ay. S.C. ay. Geo. ay.
Col. Mason in opposition to M^r Read's motion desired it might be
considered to whom the money would belong; if to the people, the
legislature representing the people ought to appoint the keepers of it.
On striking out the clause as amended by inserting "Joint"
N.H. no. Mass. no. C^t no. P^a ay. Del. ay. M^d ay. V^a no.
N.C. no. S.C. ay. Geo. no.
"To constitute inferior tribunals" agreed to nem. con.
"To make rules as to captures on land & water" d^o d^o.
"To declare the law and punishment of piracies and felonies &c &c."
considered.
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