The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
M^r Pinkney. If slavery be wrong, it is justified by the example of all
the world. He cited the case of Greece Rome & other antient States; the
sanction given by France England, Holland & other modern States. In all
ages one half of mankind have been slaves. If the S. States were let
alone they will probably of themselves stop importations. He w^d himself
as a citizen of S. Carolina vote for it. An attempt to take away the
right as proposed will produce serious objections to the Constitution
which he wished to see adopted.
General Pinkney declared it to be his firm opinion that if himself & all
his colleagues were to sign the Constitution & use their personal
influence, it would be of no avail towards obtaining the assent of their
Constituents. S. Carolina & Georgia cannot do without slaves. As to
Virginia she will gain by stopping the importations. Her slaves will
rise in value, & she has more than she wants. It would be unequal to
require S. C. & Georgia to confederate on such unequal terms. He said
the Royal assent before the Revolution had never been refused to S.
Carolina as to Virginia. He contended that the importation of slaves
would be for the interest of the whole Union. The more slaves, the more
produce to employ the carrying trade; The more consumption also, and the
more of this, the more revenue for the common treasury. He admitted it
to be reasonable that slaves should be dutied like other imports, but
should consider a rejection of the clause as an exclusion of S. Carol^a
from the Union.
M^r Baldwin had conceived national objects alone to be before the
Convention, not such as like the present were of a local nature. Georgia
was decided on this point. That State has always hitherto supposed a
Gen^l Governm^t to be the pursuit of the central States who wished to
have a vortex for every thing--that her distance would preclude her from
equal advantage--& that she could not prudently purchase it by yielding
national powers. From this it might be understood in what light she
would view an attempt to abridge one of her favorite prerogatives. If
left to herself, she may probably put a stop to the evil. As one ground
for this conjecture, he took notice of the sect of ---- which he said
was a respectable class of people, who carried their ethics beyond the
mere _equality of men_, extending their humanity to the claims of the
whole animal creation.
M^r Wilson observed that if S. C. & Georgia were themselves disposed to
get rid of the importation of slaves in a short time as had been
suggested, they would never refuse to Unite because the importation
might be prohibited. As the section now stands all articles imported are
to be taxed. Slaves alone are exempt. This is in fact a bounty on that
article.
M^r Gerry thought we had nothing to do with the conduct of the States as
to Slaves, but ought to be careful not to give any sanction to it.
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