The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
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Col: Mason. Instead of excluding merit, the ineligibility will keep out
corruption, by excluding office-hunters.
M^r Wilson considered the exclusion of members of the Legislature as
increasing the influence of the Executive as observed by M^r Gov^r
Morris at the same time that it would diminish, the general energy of
the Government. He said that the legal disqualification for office would
be odious to those who did not wish for office, but did not wish either
to be marked by so degrading a distinction.
M^r Pinkney. The first Legislature will be composed of the ablest men to
be found. The States will select such to put the Government into
operation. Should the Report of the Committee or even the amendment be
agreed to, The great offices, even those of the Judiciary Department
which are to continue for life, must be filled while those most capable
of filling them will be under a disqualification.
On the question on M^r King's motion
N. H. ay. Mas. ay. C^t no. N. J. no. P^a ay. M^d no. V^a ay.
N. C. ay. S. C. no. Geo. no.
The amendment being thus lost by the equal division of the States, M^r
Williamson moved to insert the words "created or the emoluments whereof
shall have been increased" before the word "during" in the Report of the
Committee.
M^r King 2^{ded} the motion, & on the question
N. H. ay. Mas. ay. C^t no. N. J. no. Pa. ay. M^d no. V^a ay.
N. C. ay. S. C. no. Geo. divided.
The last clause rendering a Seat in the Legislature & an office
incompatible was agreed to nem. con:
The Report as amended & agreed to is as follows.
"The members of each House shall be ineligible to any Civil
office under the authority of the U. States, created, or the
emoluments whereof shall have been increased during the time for
which they shall respectively be elected--And no person holding
any office under the U. S. shall be a member of either House
during his continuance in office."
Adjourned.
TUESDAY SEP^R 4. 1787. IN CONVENTION
M^r Brearly from the Committee of Eleven made a further partial Report
as follows
"The Committee of Eleven to whom sundry resolutions &c. were
referred on the 31^{st} of August, report that in their opinion
the following additions and alterations should be made to the
Report before the Convention, viz.[50]
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