The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
M^r Sherman remarked that the appropriations were permitted only, not
required to be for two years. As the Legislature is to be biennially
elected, it would be inconvenient to require appropriations to be for
one year, as there might be no Session within the time necessary to
renew them. He should himself he said like a reasonable restriction on
the number and continuance of an army in time of peace.
The (2) clause was then agreed to nem: con:
The (3) clause, M^r Gov^r Morris moved to postpone. It had been agreed
to in the Committee on the ground of compromise, and he should feel
himself at liberty to dissent to it, if on the whole he should not be
satisfied with certain other parts to be settled.--M^r Pinkney 2^{ded}
the motion.
M^r Sherman was for giving immediate ease to those who looked on this
clause as of great moment, and for trusting to their concurrence in
other proper measures.
On the question for postponing
N. H. ay. Mas. no. C^t ay. N. J. ay. P^a ay. Del. ay. M^d ay.
V^a no. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
So much of the (4) clause as related to the seat of Government was
agreed to nem: con:
On the residue to wit, "to exercise like authority over all places
purchased for forts" &c.
M^r Gerry contended that this power might be made use of to enslave any
particular State by buying up its territory, and that the strongholds
proposed would be a means of awing the State into an undue obedience to
the Gen^l Government.
M^r King thought himself the provision unnecessary, the power being
already involved: but would move to insert after the word "purchased"
the words "by the consent of the Legislature of the State." This would
certainly make the power safe.
M^r Gov^r Morris 2^{ded} the motion, which was agreed to nem: con: as
was then the residue of the clause as amended.
The (5) clause was agreed to nem: con:
The following Resolution & order being reported from the Committee of
eleven, to wit,
"Resolved that the U. S. in Congress be requested to allow and
cause to be paid to the Secretary and other officers of this
Convention such sums in proportion to their respective times of
service, as are allowed to the Secretary & similar officers of
Congress."
"Ordered that the Secretary make out & transmit to the Treasury
office of the U. S. an account for the said services & for the
incidental expences of this Convention."
The resolution & order were separately agreed to nem: con:
M^r Gerry gave notice that he should move to reconsider articles XIX.
XX. XXI. XXII.
M^r Williamson gave like notice as to the article fixing the number of
Representatives, which he thought too small. He wished also to allow
Rho: Island more than one, as due to her probable number of people, and
as proper to stifle any pretext arising from her absence on the
occasion.
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