The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
M^r Randolph & M^r Madison expressed doubts as to the propriety of
giving such a power, & wished for a postponement.
M^r Gov^r Morris thought it so plain a case that no postponement could
be necessary.
M^r Wilson thought the power involved, and the express insertion of it
needless. It might beget doubts as to the power of other public bodies,
as Courts &c. Every Court is the judge of its own privileges.
M^r Madison distinguished between the power of Judging of privileges
previously & duly established, and the effect of the motion which would
give a discretion to each House as to the extent of its own privileges.
He suggested that it would be better to make provision for ascertaining
by _law_, the privileges of each House, than to allow each House to
decide for itself. He suggested also the necessity of considering what
privileges ought to be allowed to the Executive.
Adjourned.
WEDNESDAY SEP^R 5. 1787. IN CONVENTION.
M^r Brearley from the Committee of Eleven made a farther report as
follows,
(1) To add to the clause "to declare war" the words "and grant
letters of marque and reprisal."
(2) To add to the clause "to raise and support armies" the words
"but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer
term than two years."
(3) Instead of sect: 12. art 6. say--"All bills for raising
revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives, and
shall be subject to alterations and amendments by the Senate: no
money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in consequence of
appropriations made by law."
(4) Immediately before the last clause of sect. 1. art. 7.
insert "To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases
whatsoever over such district (not exceeding ten miles square)
as may, by Cession of particular States and the acceptance of
the Legislature become the Seat of the Government of the U. S.
and to exercise like authority over all places purchased for the
erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, Dock Yards, and other
needful buildings."
(5) "To promote the progress of Science and useful arts by
securing for limited times to authors & inventors, the exclusive
right to their respective writings and discoveries."
This report being taken up,--The (1) clause was agreed to nem: con:
To the (2) clause M^r Gerry objected that it admitted of appropriations
to an army, for two years instead of one, for which he could not
conceive a reason, that it implied that there was to be a standing army
which he inveighed against as dangerous to liberty, as unnecessary even
for so great an extent of Country as this, and if necessary, some
restriction on the number & duration ought to be provided: Nor was this
a proper time for such an innovation. The people would not bear it.
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