The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
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The words "and of their giving their votes" being inserted on motion for
that purpose, after the words "The Legislature may determine the time of
chusing and assembling the Electors."
The House adjourned.
THURSDAY SEP^R 6. 1787. IN CONVENTION
M^r King and M^r Gerry moved to insert in the (5)[54] clause of the
Report (see Sep^r 4) after the words "may be entitled in the
Legislature" the words following--"But no person shall be appointed an
elector who is a member of the Legislature of the U. S. or who holds any
office of profit or trust under the U. S." which passed nem: con:
[54] This is a mistake and should be fourth clause. See p. 298.
M^r Gerry proposed as the President was to be elected by the Senate out
of the five highest candidates, that if he should not at the end of his
term be re-elected by a majority of the Electors, and no other candidate
should have a majority, the eventual election should be made by the
Legislature. This he said would relieve the President from his
particular dependence on the Senate for his continuance in office.
M^r King liked the idea, as calculated to satisfy particular members and
promote unanimity & as likely to operate but seldom.
M^r Read opposed it, remarking that if individual members were to be
indulged, alterations would be necessary to satisfy most of them.
M^r Williamson espoused it as a reasonable precaution against the undue
influence of the Senate.
M^r Sherman liked the arrangement as it stood, though he should not be
averse to some amendments. He thought he said that if the Legislature
were to have the eventual appointment instead of the Senate, it ought to
vote in the case by States, in favor of the small States, as the large
States would have so great an advantage in nominating the candidates.
M^r Gov^r Morris thought favorably of M^r Gerry's proposition. It would
free the President from being tempted in naming to offices, to Conform
to the will of the Senate, & thereby virtually give the appointments to
office, to the Senate.
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