M^r Williamson. There are seven States which do not contain one third of the people. If the Senate are to appoint, less than one sixth of the people will have the power. On the question N. H. no. Mas. no. C^t no. N. J. no. P^a no. Del. no. M^d no. V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. no. Geo. no. M^r Gerry suggested that the eventual election should be made by six Senators and seven Representatives chosen by joint ballot of both Houses. M^r King observed that the influence of the Small States in the Senate was somewhat balanced by the influence of the large States in bringing forward the candidates,[53] and also by the Concurrence of the small States in the Committee in the clause vesting the exclusive origination of Money bills in the House of Representatives. [53] This explains the compromise mentioned above by M^r Gov^r Morris. Col. Mason, M^r Gerry & other members from large States set great value on this privilege of originating money bills. Of this the members from the small States, with some from the large States who wished a high mounted Gov^t endeavored to avail themselves, by making that privilege, the price of arrangements in the constitution favorable to the small States, and to the elevation of the Government.--Madison's Note. Col: Mason moved to strike out the word "five" and insert the word "three" as the highest candidates for the Senate to choose out of. M^r Gerry 2^{ded} the motion. M^r Sherman would sooner give up the plan. He would prefer seven or thirteen. On the question moved by Col: Mason & M^r Gerry N. H. no. Mas. no. C^t no. N. J. no. P^a no. Delaware [and] M^d no. V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. no. Geo. no. M^r Spaight and M^r Rutlidge moved to strike out "five" and insert "thirteen"--to which all the States disagreed--except N. C. & S. C. M^r Madison & M^r Williamson moved to insert after "Electors" the words "who shall have balloted" so that the non voting electors not being counted might not increase the number necessary as a majority of the whole to decide the choice without the agency of the Senate. On this question N. H. no. Mas. no. C^t no. N. J. no. P^a ay. Del. no. M^d ay. V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. no. Geo. no. M^r Dickinson moved, in order to remove ambiguity from the intention of the clause as explained by the vote, to add, after the words "if such number be a majority of the whole number of the Electors" the word "appointed." On this motion N. H. ay. Mas. ay. Con. ay. N. J. ay. P^a ay. Delaware [and] M^d ay. V^a no. N. C. no. S. C. ay. Geo. ay. Col: Mason. As the mode of appointment is now regulated, he could not forbear expressing his opinion that it is utterly inadmissible. He would prefer the Government of Prussia to one which will put all power into the hands of seven or eight men, and fix an Aristocracy worse than absolute monarchy.