The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
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M^r Pinkney. These declarations from members so respectable at the close
of this important scene, give a peculiar solemnity to the present
moment. He descanted on the consequences of calling forth the
deliberations & amendments of the different States on the subject of
Government at large. Nothing but confusion & contrariety could spring
from the experiment. The States will never agree in their plans, and the
Deputies to a second Convention coming together under the discordant
impressions of their Constituents, will never agree. Conventions are
serious things, and ought not to be repeated. He was not without
objections as well as others to the plan. He objected to the
contemptible weakness & dependence of the Executive. He objected to the
power of a majority only of Cong^s over Commerce. But apprehending the
danger of a general confusion, and an ultimate decision by the sword, he
should give the plan his support.
M^r Gerry stated the objections which determined him to withhold his
name from the Constitution. 1. the duration and re-eligibility of the
Senate. 2. the power of the House of Representatives to conceal their
journals. 3. the power of Congress over the places of election. 4. the
unlimited power of Congress over their own compensation. 5.
Massachusetts has not a due share of Representatives allotted to her. 6.
3/5 of the Blacks are to be represented as if they were freemen. 7.
Under the power over commerce, monopolies may be established. 8. The
vice president being made head of the Senate. He could however he said
get over all these, if the rights of the Citizens were not rendered
insecure 1. by the general power of the Legislature to make what laws
they may please to call necessary and proper. 2. raise armies and money
without limit. 3. to establish a tribunal without juries, which will be
a Star-chamber as to Civil cases. Under such a view of the Constitution,
the best that could be done he conceived was to provide for a second
general Convention.
On the question on the proposition of M^r Randolph. All the States
answered no.
On the question to agree to the Constitution as amended. All the States
ay.
The Constitution was then ordered to be engrossed. and the House
adjourned.
MONDAY SEP^R 17. 1787. IN CONVENTION
The engrossed Constitution being read.
Doc^r Franklin rose with a speech in his hand, which he had reduced to
writing for his own conveniency, and which M^r Wilson read in the words
following.
M^r President
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