The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
M^r King suggested that the Journals of the Convention should be either
destroyed, or deposited in the custody of the President. He thought if
suffered to be made public, a bad use would be made of them by those who
would wish to prevent the adoption of the Constitution.
M^r Wilson preferd the second expedient, he had at one time liked the
first best; but as false suggestions may be propagated it should not be
made impossible to contradict them.
A question was then put on depositing the Journals and other papers of
the Convention in the hands of the President, on which,
N. H. ay. M^{tts} ay. C^t ay. N. J. ay. Pen^a ay. Del. ay.
M^d no.[107] V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.[108]
[107] This negative of Maryland was occasioned by the
language of the instructions to the Deputies of that
State, which required them to report to the State, the
_proceedings_ of the Convention.--Madison's Note.
[108] "Major Jackson presents his most respectful
compliments to General Washington--
"He begs leave to request his signature to forty
Diplomas intended for the Rhode Island Society of the
Cincinnati.
"Major Jackson, after burning all the loose scraps of
paper which belong to the Convention, will this evening
wait upon the General with the Journals and other papers
which their vote directs to be delivered to His
Excellency.
"Monday evening"
Endorsed in Washington's hand: "Maj^r W^m Jackson
17^{th} Sep. 1787."--Wash. MSS.
The President having asked what the Convention meant should be done with
the Journals &c. whether copies were to be allowed to the members if
applied for. It was Resolved nem. con: "that he retain the Journal and
other papers, subject to the order of Congress, if ever formed under the
Constitution."
The members then proceeded to sign the instrument.
Whilst the last members were signing it Doct^r Franklin looking towards
the President's Chair, at the back of which a rising sun happened to be
painted, observed to a few members near him, that Painters had found it
difficult to distinguish in their art a rising from a setting sun. I
have said he, often and often in the course of the Session, and the
vicissitudes of my hopes and fears as to its issue, looked at that
behind the President without being able to tell whether it was rising or
setting: But now at length I have the happiness to know that it is a
rising and not a setting Sun.
The Constitution being signed by all the members except M^r Randolph,
M^r Mason and M^r Gerry, who declined giving it the sanction of their
names, the Convention dissolved itself by an Adjournment sine die[109]--
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