The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
M^r Butler & M^r Rutlidge moved "three years" instead of "one year" for
previous inhabitancy.
On the question for 3 years,
N. H. no. Mass. no. C^t no. N. J. no. P^a no. Del. no. M^d no.
V^a no. N. C. no. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
On the question for "1 year"
N. H. no.--Mass. no. C^t no. N. J. ay. P^a no. Del. no.
M^d div^d. V^a no. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
Art. IV. Sect. 2. as amended in manner preceding, was agreed to nem.
con.
Art. IV. Sect. 3. taken up.
Gen^l Pinkney & M^r Pinkney moved that the number of Representatives
allotted to S. Carol^a be "six." On the question,
N. H. no. Mass. no. C^t no. N. J. no. P^a no. Delaware ay.
M^d no. V^a no. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
The 3. Sect of Art: IV, was then agreed to.
Art: IV. Sect. 4. taken up.
M^r Williamson moved to strike out "according to the provisions
hereinafter made" and to insert the words "according to the rule
hereafter to be provided for direct taxation."--See Art. VII. Sect. 3.
On the question for agreeing to M^r Williamson's amendment
N. H. ay. Mass. ay. C^t ay. N. J. no. P^a ay. Del. no. M^d ay.
V^a ay. N. C. ay. S. C. ay. Geo. ay.
M^r King wished to know what influence the vote just passed was meant to
have on the succeeding part of the Report, concerning the admission of
Slaves into the rule of Representation. He could not reconcile his mind
to the article if it was to prevent objections to the latter part. The
admission of slaves was a most grating circumstance to his mind, & he
believed would be so to a great part of the people of America. He had
not made a strenuous opposition to it heretofore because he had hoped
that this concession would have produced a readiness which had not been
manifested, to strengthen the Gen^l Gov^t and to mark a full confidence
in it. The Report under consideration had by the tenor of it, put an end
to all those hopes. In two great points the hands of the Legislature
were absolutely tied. The importation of slaves could not be
prohibited--exports could not be taxed. Is this reasonable? What are the
great objects of the Gen^l System? 1. defence ag^{st} foreign invasion.
2. ag^{st} internal sedition. Shall all the States then be bound to
defend each; & shall each be at liberty to introduce a weakness which
will render defence more difficult? Shall one part of the U. S. be bound
to defend another part, and that other part be at liberty not only to
increase its own danger, but to withhold the compensation for the
burden? If slaves are to be imported shall not the exports produced by
their labor, supply a revenue the better to enable the Gen^l Gov^a to
defend their Masters? There was so much inequality & unreasonableness in
all this, that the people of the Northern States could never be
reconciled to it. No candid man could undertake to justify it to them.
He had hoped that some accommodation w^d have taken place on this
subject; that at least a time w^d have been limited for the importation
of slaves.
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