The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2Madison, James
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The Journal of the Debates in the Convention which Framed the Constitution of the United States, May-September 1787. Volume 2
Madison, James
Constitutional law -- United States; Constitutions -- United States; United States. Constitution
He never could agree to let them be imported without
limitation & then be represented in the Nat^l Legislature. Indeed he
could so little persuade himself of the rectitude of such a practice,
that he was not sure he could assent to it under any circumstances. At
all events, either slaves should not be represented, or exports should
be taxable.
M^r Sherman regarded the slave trade as iniquitous; but the point of
representation having been settled after much difficulty & deliberation,
he did not think himself bound to make opposition; especially as the
present article as amended did not preclude any arrangement whatever on
that point in another place of the Report.
M^r Madison objected to 1 for every 40.000 inhabitants as a perpetual
rule. The future increase of population if the Union sh^d be permanent,
will render the number of Representatives excessive.
M^r Ghorum. It is not to be supposed that the Gov^t will last so long as
to produce this effect. Can it be supposed that this vast Country
including the Western territory will 150 years hence remain one nation?
M^r Elseworth. If the Gov^t should continue so long, alterations may be
made in the Constitution in the manner proposed in a subsequent article.
M^r Sherman & M^r Madison moved to insert the words "not exceeding,"
before the words "1 for every 40.000." which was agreed to nem. con.
M^r Gov^r Morris moved to insert "free" before the word inhabitants.
Much he said would depend on this point. He never would concur in
upholding domestic slavery. It was a nefarious institution. It was the
curse of heaven on the States where it prevailed. Compare the free
regions of the Middle States, where a rich & noble cultivation marks the
prosperity & happiness of the people, with the misery & poverty which
overspread the barren wastes of V^a Mary^d & the other States having
slaves. Travel thro' y^e whole Continent & you behold the prospect
continually varying with the appearance & disappearance of slavery. The
moment you leave y^e E. States & enter N. York, the effects of the
institution become visible, passing thro' the Jerseys & entering P^a
every criterion of superior improvement witnesses the change. Proceed
southw^{dly}. & every step you take thro' y^e great regions of slaves
presents a desert increasing, with y^e increasing [word is illegible]
proportion of these wretched beings. Upon what principle is it that the
slaves shall be computed in the representation? Are they men? Then make
them Citizens and let them vote. Are they property? Why then is no other
property included? The Houses in this city (Philad^a) are worth more
than all the wretched Slaves which cover the rice swamps of South
Carolina. The admission of slaves into the Representation when fairly
explained comes to this: that the inhabitant of Georgia and S. C. who
goes to the Coast of Africa, and in defiance of the most sacred laws of
humanity tears away his fellow creatures from their dearest connections
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