=3. CINERES= = _mortem_. Bömer at _Met_ VIII 539 _post cinerem_ (where _cinerem_, as Bömer saw, means 'cremation'), cites among other passages Prop III i 35-36 'meque inter seros laudabit Roma nepotes: / illum _post cineres_ auguror esse diem', Martial I i 2-6 'Martialis ... cui, lector studiose, quod dedisti / uiuenti decus atque sentienti, / rari _post cineres_ habent poetae' and Martial VIII xxxviii 16 'hoc et _post cineres_ erit tributum'. =3. AT= is my correction for the manuscripts' ET. The point that Ovid was famous _even_ while alive is made by _tum quoque_ later in the verse; the only meaning that could therefore be given to _et mihi nomen_ is 'even I had a name, even when I was alive', which is inappropriate, since in this poem Ovid is not belittling his poetic talent. _At_ seems to be the obvious solution, giving the sense 'poets usually become famous after they die; I, _however_, was famous even while alive'. Compare _Tr_ IV x 121-22 (to his Muse) 'tu mihi, quod rarum est, uiuo sublime dedisti / nomen, ab exequiis quod dare fama solet' and Martial I i 2-6 (cited in the previous note). The more usual situation of obscurity during the poet's lifetime followed by posthumous fame is described at Prop III i 21-24. Professor C. P. Jones points out to me that _et_ can have an adversative sense (_OLD et_ 14a). But the two instances there cited from Augustan verse are examples of _nec ... et_ (_Fast_ V 530; _Tr_ V xii 63 'nec possum _et_ cupio non nullos ducere uersus'). Where _et_ alone carries the adversative sense, it is generally used to join two opposing verbs or verbal phrases: compare Cic _Tusc_ I 6 'fieri ... potest ut recte quis sentiat _et_ id quod sentit polite eloqui non possit' and Sen _NQ_ II 18 'quare aliquando non fulgurat _et_ tonat?'. =4. CVM VIVIS ADNVMERARER.= For Ovid's considering himself already dead, compare _EP_ I ix 56 'et nos extinctis adnumerare potest' and _EP_ I vii 9-10 'nos satis est inter glaciem Scythicasque sagittas / uiuere, si uita est mortis habenda genus'. Ovid is the first poet to use _adnumerare_ in this sense ('reckon in with'), and only in his poems of exile; it is afterwards found at _Her_ XVI 330 and Manilius V 438. =5-36.= It is possible to discern a rough order in the catalogue of names; first come the writers of epic and Pindaric verse (5-28), then the dramatists (29-31), and finally the writers of lighter verse (32-36). =5. CVM FORET ET= _FHT_ CVMQVE FORET _BCMIL_. Clearly either _et_ or _-que_ was lost, and one or both inserted to restore the metre. _Cumque_ would be a continuation of _at mihi nomen ..._, which seems an inelegant construction. _Cum foret et_, introducing a sentence of forty-two lines ending in 'dicere si fas est, claro mea nomine Musa / atque inter tantos quae legeretur erat' seems preferable; this very long sentence serves not as a continuation of the statement in 3-4, but as evidence for it.