(33) {mathesis kai episteme tou dikaiou}--a doctrine and a knowledge of the Just. Euth. That is my opinion. Soc. And which should you say was more a man of letters (34)--he who intentionally misspells or misreads, or he who does so unconsciously? (34) Or, "more grammatical"; "the better grammarian." Euth. He who does so intentionally, I should say, because he can spell or read correctly whenever he chooses. Soc. Then the voluntary misspeller may be a lettered person, but the involuntary offender is an illiterate? (35) (35) Or, "In fact, he who sins against the lore of grammer intentionally may be a good grammarian and a man of letters, but he who does so involuntarily is illiterate and a bad grammarian?" Euth. True, he must be. I do not see how to escape from that conclusion. Soc. And which of the two knows what is right--he who intentionally lies and deceives, or he who lies and deceives unconsciously? (36) (36) Or, Soc. And does he who lies and deceives with intent know what is right rather than he who does either or both unconsciously? Euth. Clearly he does. Euth. The intentional and conscious liar clearly. Soc. Well then, your statement is this: on the one hand, the man who has the knowledge of letters is more lettered than he who has no such knowledge? (37) (37) Or, Soc. It is a fair inference, is it not, that he who has the {episteme} of grammar is more grammatical than he who has no such {episteme}? Euth. Yes. Soc. And he who has the {episteme} of things rightful is more righteous than he who lacks the {episteme}? See Plat. "Hipp. min."; Arist. "Eth. Eud." VI. v. 7. Euth. Yes. Soc. And, on the other, he who has the knowledge of what is right is more righteous than he who lacks that knowledge? Euth. I suppose it is, but for the life of me I cannot make head or tail of my own admission. (38) (38) Lit. "Apparently; but I appear to myself to be saying this also, heaven knows how." See Jowett, "Plato," ii. p. 416 (ed. 2). Soc. Well (look at it like this). Suppose a man to be anxious to speak the truth, but he is never able to hold the same language about a thing for two minutes together. First he says: "The road is towards the east," and then he says, "No, it's towards the west"; or, running up a column of figures, now he makes the product this, and again he makes it that, now more, now less--what do you think of such a man? Euth. Heaven help us! clearly he does not know what he thought he knew. Soc. And you know the appellation given to certain people--"slavish," (39) or, "little better than a slave?"