Justice -- Early works to 1800; Political science -- Early works to 1800; Utopias -- Early works to 1800
'The same, or nearly the same, objections apply to Plato's later work, the
Laws, and therefore we had better examine briefly the constitution which
is therein described. In the Republic, Socrates has definitely settled in
all a few questions only; such as the community of women and children, the
community of property, and the constitution of the state. The population
is divided into two classes--one of husbandmen, and the other of warriors;
from this latter is taken a third class of counsellors and rulers of the
state. But Socrates has not determined whether the husbandmen and artists
are to have a share in the government, and whether they too are to carry
arms and share in military service or not. He certainly thinks that the
women ought to share in the education of the guardians, and to fight by
their side. The remainder of the work is filled up with digressions
foreign to the main subject, and with discussions about the education of
the guardians. In the Laws there is hardly anything but laws; not much is
said about the constitution. This, which he had intended to make more of
the ordinary type, he gradually brings round to the other or ideal form.
For with the exception of the community of women and property, he supposes
everything to be the same in both states; there is to be the same
education; the citizens of both are to live free from servile occupations,
and there are to be common meals in both. The only difference is that in
the Laws the common meals are {ccxvi} extended to women, and the warriors
number about 5000, but in the Republic only 1000.'
(ii) by Plato in the Laws (Book v. 739 B-E), from the side of the
Republic:--
'The first and highest form of the state and of the government and of the
law is that in which there prevails most widely the ancient saying that
"Friends have all things in common." Whether there is now, or ever will
be, this communion of women and children and of property, in which the
private and individual is altogether banished from life, and things which
are by nature private, such as eyes and ears and hands, have become
common, and all men express praise and blame, and feel joy and sorrow, on
the same occasions, and the laws unite the city to the utmost,--whether
all this is possible or not, I say that no man, acting upon any other
principle, will ever constitute a state more exalted in virtue, or truer
or better than this. Such a state, whether inhabited by Gods or sons of
Gods, will make them blessed who dwell therein; and therefore to this we
are to look for the pattern of the state, and to cling to this, and, as
far as possible, to seek for one which is like this. The state which we
have now in hand, when created, will be nearest to immortality and unity
in the next degree; and after that, by the grace of God, we will complete
the third one. And we will begin by speaking of the nature and origin of
the second.'
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