"What did he say?"--"He made a long talk, commenting on the articles that appeared. He said almost all of the statements were lies. He said in regard to dynamite bombs: 'It is quite true we have lots of explosives and dynamite in our possession, and we will not hesitate to use them when the proper time comes. We care nothing at all either for the military or the police. All of these are in the pay of the capitalists.' He further said that 'even in the regular army most of the soldiers are in sympathy with us, and most of them have been driven to enlist. I have had a letter from a friend out West. He told me that he had seen a soldier on the frontier reading a copy of the _Alarm_.' Others then made speeches. Afterward Fielden again spoke at the same meeting in regard to the question asked him, what was the Socialist idea of the eight-hour movement. Fielden said: 'We don't object to but we don't believe in it. Whether a man works eight hours a day or ten hours a day he is still a slave. We propose to abolish slavery altogether.' That is all of that meeting. Fielden said, the 24th of January, at a meeting held at No. 106 Randolph street--" "What is the name of that, Jung's hall?"--"Yes, I believe it is Jung's hall. Fielden said good results were sure to follow the abolishment of private property." "When did you quit this branch of your business?"--"The latter part of January last." "Did you know then of Pinkerton's agency having any other men employed in the same line that you were employed in?"--"I knew there had been another man, but whether he was employed then I do not know." "Have you lately, within the last few days, ascertained, and do you know the fact, that you have seen any Pinkerton men in these meetings?"--"That is so." "But you did not know it at that time?"--"I did not know it at that time." "How often did you drill with the armed section?"--"Only twice." "How often did they drill?"--"Once a week." "Have you got any information from any other members of the organization? If they drilled after that?" Objected to and withdrawn. "Did you ascertain from any of the defendants if they drilled after that?"--"I did not." "Have you had any other talk with Parsons outside of these utterances?"--"I have." "Have you had any talk with Spies, Fielden, Parsons, and other defendants as to the purposes of their organization?"--"I have talked frequently with Parsons and Fielden at various times and at various places. I cannot recollect as to what was said at each place and when it was said." "Can you give me the substance or purport of what was said at any time?" Captain Black objected, unless time and place were given.