Q: How did he describe them? A: He described them being about three and a half to four feet tall, very slim in stature, and with—their heads were hairless, with no eyebrows, no eyelashes, no hair. Sort of a pear-shaped head with the top of the head being smaller—larger, I mean. Q: Any other characteristics about their appearance? A: Only one thing that he mentioned. The hands were not covered, they had four fingers. (END) Transcript of Interview with James Ragsdale[*] (Alleged firsthand witness to “crash site” north of Roswell) [*] James Ragsdale, interview with Donald R. Schmitt, January 26, 1993. RAGSDALE, JAMES EYEWITNESS Transcript 26 JANUARY 1993 DS: So you were actually out there. JR: Yeah. DS: Do you remember the name of the ranch it was on?” JR: It was on ... Fisher? DS: Was it north of here. JR: Yes ... back out here. DS: Northwest ... Just take your time. JR: It was Foster. (Some discussion with his wife about who owned the ranch) ... Let me see what you’ve got (referring to the photographs). That’s the place right there (identifying the location from the pictures). DS: What area? JR: It seemed to me that that place belonged to ... Fisher, but it sold to somebody else ... somebody else bought that... That’s how come I was out in that area. And we was out there and she’s dead and all the guys I showed the stuff are all dead. It’s amazing what all went on... Discuss our book and the Museum. DS: showing one of the pictures ... so you think this looks like JR: That looks like the place. DS: As far as the ranches go, driving around at that time, it could have been most any ranch, right? This would have been in '47 ... You were with this woman? JR: Yeah. We were camped out out there. DS: You were camping? JR: Yeah... I would say half of it ... I would say that only about half of it ... just half of a ... you really couldn’t tell what it was ... what you could still see, where it hit ... I think it was two spaceships flying together and one them came down and the other one picked up what they could and got out of there. DS: Is it possible that because it was hit by lightning that it broke up and part of it went down ... (discussion of the Mac Brazel sighting) JR: ... but it was either dummies or bodies or something laying there. They looked like bodies. They weren’t very long ... over four or five foot long at the most. We didn’t see their faces or nothing like that but we had just got to the site and heard the army, the sirens, all coming and we got into a damned jeep to take off. We had to hold a fence up to go onto another ranch to come out from there. DS: How far would you say this from town here? JR: Thirty miles ... forty miles. DS: In a northwesterly direction? JR: Right up here. (Discuss the pictures again.) DS: Were there any buildings?